Why Are We Obsessed with Cults?

On November 18th 1978, over 900 members of
the People’s Temple committed mass suicide at the Jonestown commune in Guyana. Under the paranoid leadership of Jim Jones,
the members (including approximately 300 children) drank cyanide laced juice. Jonestown had long been under scrutiny from
Guyanese and American officials for their coercive tactics and misdeeds. Members of the People’s Temple reported
being separated from their families, having their earnings and homes seized by the church,
and being subjected to brutal physical violence. Members also murdered Congressman Leo Ryan
and three reporters who had arrived at the colony to question whether its American ex-pat
members were being abused or held against their will. Orchestrating one of the most deadly mass
suicides in history, Jones’ story of abuse, mind control, and violence lives on in infamy
in our collective consciousness. While stories like the massacre at Jonestown
represent the most extreme outcome of cult indoctrination, revisiting the story did get
me wondering: when did our culture become so obsessed with ferreting out information
about cults? And how did we start distinguishing them from
religions (or any other type of self selecting group with a shared interest)? Before it was a word that slipped into the
lingua franca to ubiquitously describe any organization with a shady agenda and blissed
out followers who have “seen the light,” cults were one of the big fears of the late
1960s to early 1990s. So how did these groups exit the shadows and
enter center stage? So to get things started we should first establish
how people who study the structure and psychology of cults tend to define these organizations: First at the top of the food chain is a charismatic
leader who is infallible to their followers and cannot be judged negatively for any of
their actions. Their word is the law and organizing backbone
of the group. Second are members who are drawn in with promises of
community, clarity about life’s larger questions, and spiritual fellowship eventually finding themselves
under the leader’s complete control. Members of the organization can range from
the die hard faithful to the less committed and slowly integrated newbies. Members can move up the organization to have
greater access to the benefits bestowed on them by the leader. And third, there are members who remain loyal to the group eventually align their personality and their sense of self with the leader and with the organization as a whole. These are just a rough outline of what I’ve
culled from psychologists’ reports, and you’re right to wonder if all of this sounds
a bit too amorphous to pin down. Because while most of the cults that enter
into the public consciousness are violent or dangerous, not EVERY cult is. The ones that are the most dangerous are ones
where there is some element of coercion or control. This can include requiring members to turn
over their bank account information, making them sell their homes and move into a shared compounds, or submitting them to psychological and physical violence. But the other listed traits can actually be
applied to a super wide range of organizations, including some traditionally accepted and recognized religions. Because lots of religions have an infallible
leader, make promises of a faith based community, and encourage you to enmesh your personality
with that of the larger group. So the biggest way that people differentiate
between cults and religions is simply based on size. Have 3 million followers world wide? Religion. Have 15 folks who gather every night in a
basement in the middle of nowhere? Cult. And it is also precisely their small numbers,
their sometimes secretive mythologies and their underground (but hidden in plain sight)
methods that drove the public fascination with and fear of cults. And as more and more stories began to crop
up in the news, cults–as a great secret threat– became a disproportionate fixation in the
latter half of the 20th century. One of the earliest observers of the cult
indoctrination process (which later became more popularly known as “brainwashing”)
was Dr. Margaret Thaler Singer. Dr. Singer started studying mind control techniques
in the 1950s by interviewing American prisoners of war who were captured during the Korean
War and manipulated or tortured. She later expanded her work to include studies
of homegrown cults, publishing numerous articles and books on her findings. But her contributions to the field of psychology
and therapy weren’t without controversy. Dr. Singer came to prominence in the case
of heiress Patty Hearst, who in 1974 was kidnapped by a group called the Symbionese Liberation
Army. Hearst later participated an armed bank robbery
with other members of the group. Not everyone agreed with Singer’s interviews
that Hearst was held against her will and effectively not responsible for her actions
because she had been “brainwashed” and turned into a “zombie” through repeated
torture by SLA members, who threatened her with death if she did not join their cause. The testimony ultimately proved unsuccessful
and Hearst was convicted and sentenced to 7 years in prison. But thanks to Dr. Singer, the concept that
someone could have their mind altered by either a persuasive leader or by good old fashioned
groupthink was now at the forefront of everyone’s minds. And related images were splashed across TV
screens around the world, like Hearst wielding machine guns, or members of the Manson family
after they were arrested in 1969 for murdering 5 people in an attempt to start a race war
engineered by their leader Charles Manson. Soon other high profile cases of cult abuse
started to fire across the country. Some of the accusations ranged widely, like
the financial fraud and tax evasion of The Unification Church founded in 1954 by Sun
Myong Moon. Then there were more violent crimes such as
kidnapping and drugging children like in the case of Australian cult leader Anne Hamilton-Byrne,
the head of a group called “The Family”. But in other cases the only accusation that
arose against a “cult” was that they were a slightly odd but ultimately harmless organization. But it was also the climate of the 1970s that
made fear of cults and cult like behavior reach an all time high, propelled in part
by mainstream backlash to emerging countercultures. (If you want a run down on all of the emerging
conflicts of the 1960s check out our “Revolutionary 1960s” playlist when you’re done with
this video). As people began to push back on the dominant
culture and its conservative values in favor of principles like equality, revolution, and
rebellion, cults permeated the same conversations. Because some of the behavior patterns of these
1970s cults were also similar or identical to other (benign and legitimate) countercultural
groups. Living on self sustaining farms, simplifying
your lifestyle, caring collectively for your neighbor, giving away your worldly possessions
and committing to communal living were often a big part of the rhetoric of counter culture
groups that actually did a lot to promote positive community outcomes. For example the Black Panther Party, established
free lunch programs and medical clinics in black communities. Also non-religious communes sprung up around
the US at an all time high in the 1960s and 70s. Historian Timothy Miller notes that one of
the trickiest things about studying communes is estimating exactly how many people were
even staying on them at any given time. Similarly it’s difficult to pin down hard
numbers on cults, in part because of their secrecy and in part because we can never truly
agree on the same running definition of what a cult is. Despite not being able to pin down the exact
number of people who lived at a commune at some point during these decades, in the broader
public, commune members were often branded as fringe oddballs who had peeled off from
the rest of society. Sound familiar? Well that’s because there was some overlap
in the two categories. So from the outside looking in it was hard
to say if your 3rd cousin had gone to plant organic fruits on a farm or if they were being
indoctrinated into a more sinister off the grid enterprise. So Americans were already uneasy about people
ditching mainstream society to seek a higher purpose in seclusion. And coupled with that were these high profile
cases of cult led murders and abuse which often times took place on communes, like Jonestown. The result: a panic that cult enrollment was
on the rise. Additionally psychologists and psychiatrists
who were looking to help cult members often coordinated with bereaved family members to
make emotional appeals to the media for the safe return of their indoctrinated children. So “Deprogramming” became the b-side to
“brainwashing.” It was posited as a way to help integrate
former cult members back into society and to reorder their thought processes after they
were free from cult control. But even these methods proved to be very controversial. In her 2009 Ted Talk author and former member
of the Unification Church Diane Benscoter notes how she joined the cult when she was
17 and remained a member for several years before her family intervened and had her deprogrammed. After that she became a “deprogrammer”
herself for 5 years. Most her cases were “involuntary” meaning
that family members took the member of the cult away from the group and they were isolated in “safe
places” for about a week. Which may sound a lot like kidnapping. Because it kind of was – kidnapping with a cause. Benscoter notes that she actually was arrested
for kidnapping which led her to turn away from the work. So the same methods that were used to bring
someone into a cult could also shake them loose and have the deprogrammer arrested. By the end of the 1970s the surge of communal
living that had swept the nation in the previous decades was on the decline. And as the 1980s wound its way towards the
1990s, the bubble of interest in cults as the great secret threat to our society started
to plateau and finally subside. In 1983 a group of psychologists under the
direction of the American Psychological Association and led by Dr. Singer made recommendations for the
treatment and study of mind control techniques. But the study’s findings were rejected by
the APA who questioned the rigor of the research leading Dr. Singer to later unsuccessfully
sue them. Also some churches and organizations began
to say that describing their groups as cults was libelous and violated their religious
freedom. And so amidst internal disputes over recognition
and validity and a flurry of lawsuits the public interest in real world cults as an
ever present threat declined. But even though the idea of cults taking over
society became more of an abstract idea than a pressing fear by the 21st century, fascination
with these shadowy organizations persists in popular culture today. I’d take an educated guess and say that
after studying the historical antecedents, our continued curiosity about cults stems
from a few different impulses: First, the stories of Jonestown, Patty Hearst, Charles
Manson, and others may be history but they’re not ancient history. So we’re far enough away from the stories
to observe them and be frightened by them, but still close enough to have living memories
of when these things occurred. Those who survived the communities or participated
in them are still alive and still giving their testimony to the rest of the world via the
media. Second, the question of cults is usually “could
it also be me? Am I also potentially susceptible to mind
control?” And no one really knows the answer to that. We’d all like to imagine that we’re independent
minded, strong willed, and impervious to deception. But the stories of cult members are (usually)
relatively identical to our own. And that’s part of why we can’t look away. So what do you think? Want to add something to this chilling tale
of groups that can wash your mind clean, ring it out and hang it up to dry? Be sure to check out the works cited list
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100 thoughts on “Why Are We Obsessed with Cults?”

  1. The youtuber Telltale does a lot of videos about cults. His primary focus is on Jehovah's Witnesses, but he has talk about other cults/religions.

  2. There are a few differences between cults vs. religions that weren't mentioned in this video. One of them is this: religions don't brainwash their members, but cults do brainwash their members. Cults require you to cut yourself off from society and only associate with members of the cult (sometimes recruiting new members is required too) and cults require constant reminders of what you are and aren't allowed to think. Religions don't do this, members of religions are allowed to think whatever they want and religious people can even have friends outside of their own religion. Cult members can't have friends outside of members of the cult they are a part of. Basically religions allow you freedom, whereas cults enslave their members. This is why it so difficult to leave a cult, but easy to leave a religion. Why didn't they mention these important differences? Oh yea, because mainstream media likes to keep things simple, instead of complicated.
    Any ideas?

    I will pray for you.
    Great video, keep up the good work. God bless!
    Have a nice day/night.
    —————————————————- with luv from a nerdy Christian.

  3. Adam Curtis Century of the self. Is Origin of everything a cult? Captain Murphy – Duality is a cool album about mind control, cults.

  4. I remember checklists from the mid-to-late '70's with titles like "You may be in a cult if…"

    In 1977 some friends and I took one such list, and after checking off many of the items, we realized the gray steel ship on which we and our US Navy shipmates served qualified as a cult.

    Thereafter we called ourselves the "Haze Gray Cult". Which we kept filled with sounds by our sister cult, the "Blue Oyster Cult".

  5. When "society" finds it acceptable to "kidnap for the good of the person" and isolate them for a week, for "deprogramming"… because "leaving society" for a commune is dangerous… couldn't society be considered a sort of soft cult?

  6. I wanted to say it since the start of the season: you have the most gorgeous background of the whole internet 😍
    These shelves are so awesome. Who built them ? Send then my compliments if you can.

  7. Calling a religion a cult just because you don't like them is as lazy as calling a person a Nazi who has different political views.

  8. Fantastic and well researched, as always. I really love this show! I will point out that the Jonestown cult didn't drink juice; it was Fla-Vor-Aid, if I remember correctly.

    Also, and this is kinda inappropriate I guess, but your hair looks great! I'm loving the blue!

  9. Stefan Molyneux is a cult leader. Stefan demands his followers disconnect from their families (De Foo) if they don't 100% align with their political/philosophical views. Stefan's philosophy is combination of a an Anarcho-Capitalist, Pro European imperialism, White Ethno-Nationalist.

  10. I have a different way to differentiate cults from religions.
    Cult: the leader knows what they say is just something they pulled out of their butt.
    Religion: the leader believes what they say.

  11. There is actually more than just the size of the group that differences between true religions and cults. For one, cults actively search for and recruit members, often preying upon those that are in a vulnerable mental/emotional state (easier to convince and brainwash), while religions typically don't engage in that sort of activity, allowing people the choice to convert and/or practice. Another is that most cults tend to have a larger goal of money/wealth, often forcing their memebers to turn over large Sims of money and even their banking info as part of the indoctrination. Religions do collect money from people, but generally it's voluntary for the member and donations can be as large or small as can be afforded. Then of course there's the whole thing of not being able to leave a cult once you're in, while most religions encourage you to stay within them but won't forcefully hold you back if you make the choice to leave. Those are just a few main differences. Obviously things can vary between organizations and groups on both sides, but my focus here was on the main world religions (i.e. Christianity, Judaism, Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism, etc) vs what people typically think of when they think of a cult (namely something like Jonestown or similar).

  12. You're very first question is nonsensical, we never learned how to tell cults from religion…
    (All religions are cults)

  13. Why did she show a picture of Christianity and say "Have 3 million members worldwide?" More like 1000x that.

  14. Okay Mrs. Danielle, it's time I asked. What's your amulet made of?! I see it in literally every video you're in. I have come to the feels that it means something to you and that it's made of a stone of significance. Yo obvs don't have to reply, but #curiositycat.

  15. u can figure out what a is a cult by using the bite model if there's information and thought control. i grew up in what would be called a cult bit it wasent really violent but there was a big level of information and thought control. i wasent hurt after i left but ive lost freinds and after i left i realized how much of my life was being controled and it pissed me off how much i put into it.

  16. I think that just like with criminals there is something fascinating about why people do the things they do. Whether it be for Good or Evil.

  17. I would be SO down to join a cult if this were the 70s and they still had communal living. Otherwise what's the point???

  18. Excellent video!
    It's odd how much I missed during the period of time I was fascinated with cults. I blame my age and the difficulty researching on the early internet, I mostly just found the well known stuff. 😛

  19. Part of the appeal of a cult, in my opinion is how it takes the ideal of the close knit community and distorts into something that can be horrifying to discover. Ideally a community provides a space for understanding, friendship and connections but a cult takes those things (or at least offers them) and uses them as a means to achieve something else, sometimes by using their own members as tools.

  20. It should also be noted that most religions of today's world started out as a cult. When Christianity was starting to rise they thought that it was a cult as well.

    Side note: one of my favorite shows on Hulu before it was cancelled was The Path.

  21. All religions are cults. Some just happen to be more extreme than others. And everyone is susceptible to following one no matter how intelligent they are.

  22. Shudder of delight @ "slipped into the lingua franca". Your eloquence is lovely. Do you write everything on your own, or is there a collaboration? Either way, I wish I could be so consistently well-spoken.

    Also, that blue hair is blissful.

  23. Speaking of Audible, I picked a book about Jones town, (because I love the narrator) and it was interesting. The chose not to refer to it as a cult since 'a person never chooses to join a cult'. Their beginning sounded like a good idea that went horribly wrong.
    A Thousand Lives by Julia Scheeres, narrated Robin Miles 💓

  24. Friendly reminder that “committed suicide” is outdated and offensive. A better term is “died by suicide”.

  25. The BITE Model is a great tool to decide, if something is a cult. I find it so useful, because it focuses on the dangerous parts of cults and doesn't put any community that lives together in that box.

  26. I've been watching Origin of Everything videos for a while now and just realized I'm not subscribed, so now I am subscribed. Thanks for the great videos!

  27. Another awesome video! I really appreciate PBS and Danielle enlightening us on some interesting topics! One thing I did not hear is how one must allow him or herself to be 'influenced' in order to be led. Leaders with good or bad intentions are influencers. They have the ability to communicate ideas, vision, reason in ways to gain buy-in to whatever it is they are trying to achieve. They harness shared interest and beliefs into power in an attempt to control the environment or the outcome. People who abuse this 'gift' are dangerous to 'normal' humanity.

  28. I watched a documentary about Jonestown and many of the survivors refuse to call it suicide but rather murder. The reason is because many people were held at gunpoint- they either willingly drank the poison or they got shot. Several others attempted to escape by running into the jungle and they were also shot. Others (like the 300+ children you mentioned) were not given a choice to drink the poison as they were forced to drink it. Ever since watching that documentary, I have stopped calling it "suicide." It was a mass murder which included suicide, a horrific attack on human life and abuse of power.

    I love your work, Danielle ❤
    New subscriber!

  29. Didn't Jesus and his followers fit the mold of a cult? And that was 2000 years ago. Cults have existed forever. Free Thinkers, Open Marriage Advocates, and the number of Utopian societies that tried and failed are examples. But it does go to extreme when the public is led to believe that Satanists are destroying the world and killing babes and animals and people believe it. What about the false memories that kids suddenly remembered their parents doing. ?

  30. I've met a lot of cult members. i guess it boils down to intent and interpretation. When someone tries to con me or dominate me I consider them probable cultist. That's the sociological version. I don't think you mentioned the biggest assemblage of cults in America. There are devotees to various saints and concepts in the Roman Catholic Church who actually call themselves "The Cult of…". They usually consist of normal people who take on an extra religious burden that they believe is their calling in the RCC. Nothing screwball about that any more than anyone can get screwball over anything. My point is that people should always keep one eye open for agendas when they get involved with anything and things get seamy. That doesn't mean they always are.

  31. McDonald's analogy

    Cult: Small/medium fries
    Religion: Large/Extra large fries

    I hope I'll be able to teach people the dangers of ideologies and indoctrination.

  32. DM and his cult are exactly the SAME as JJ and his cult, all the same tactics to control people. WHY doesn’t everyone, including and especially our own government, act to prosecute DM and eradicate the evil cult of scientology????

  33. Hi! I'm a fan of your channel.
    I wonder if you could do a video about why and how does human skin becomes darker due to prolonged sun exposure and why our hair doesn't. 😁

  34. The BITE model is specifically designed to define cults more specifically, standing for Behavior, Information, Thought, & Emotion control. It's much more than what you stated

  35. It's always interesting to see the cult I grew up in, the Unification Church, in videos like these. I was born into it and didn't leave until I was 22. It seemed so normal to me because it was all I ever knew. I had no mind frame to believe I was being brainwashed because all of my friends believed the same thing as me. Any questions that we had were explained away with "Sometimes we have to do things for God's Will, even if we don't immediately think they're right." Upon doing research and developing an opinion of my own, I was able to uncover so much hurt, lies, abuse, and deception that I and my parents' live(d) through.

    My mother is still a member of the Church and it causes a lot of strain in our relationship. Anyways, just a bit of info for anyone curious about the Moonies! AMA

  36. The video states that cults became really popular in the public consciousnesses in the latter half of the 1900's.

    This is true, but it's not the first time as the video seems to imply. The same thing happened during the 2nd Great Awakening from roughly 1800 to 1840, though at the time they were called "sects", not "cults". A huge number of cults were established during that time frame, especially in the upstate New York region and other regions outside more established population centers. A huge driver of this was due to the "Seeker" movement moving from Britain to the New England area. There are a huge number of newspaper editorials decrying the evils of these new groups and the tactics they used to gain converts and retain them.


    A number of well-known religions developed from these early cults. The Shaking Quakers (or the Shakers), the Seventh-Day Adventists, the Oneida group (now known for their silverware company), the many branches of Mormonism, and the Campbellites are all fairly well-known groups that started as cults in upstate New York during this time period.

    Similarly, cargo cults are a modern, Pacific Islander centric phenomenon of new cults that sprung up from isolated people observing military exercises during WWII. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFKfqrdP6xs

    It seems to me that cults spontaneously occur among humans whenever there is sustained societal stress, and that the cults which survive long enough eventually grow, soften their rhetoric, and transition into mainstream religions.

  37. To me, a cult needs to have an element of reproductive control. Whether that's having your children taken away, needing permission to stay pregnant, having sex with the leader whenever he likes, needing to have as many children as possible, keeping the peace about sexual assaults… I think that's a commonality of culty cults and an effective way of drawing the line when 'charismatic leader, social isolation, fiscal surrender, and loyalty tests' is too broad.

  38. All religions are cults as they propose things that don't exist and require those to agree or be expelled from the community.

  39. The more squere a sosiety mainstreem jugde its people, the more the "cults" are needed to keep humanity alive, not just as machines or zoombies. I guess the followers of Luther in Catholic history, of Gandhi, of human rights organizations, of liberalism (ex in China), of sosialm ( in USA) etc, etc all has been jugded as cults or dangerous groups in the past. In my opinion human beeings will stagnate, if one cannot be free to think differently or even to try out different ways of living together with others. But there should be some absolute restrictions on using weapons or doing fysical violence towards members inside the "cult" or to people outside the group who might disagree, as long as they do not threaten anybodys life directly. Mainstreem sosiety can be as dangerous as small free-thinking groups, as history clearly teaches us, f example, the 2 world war, where the mainstreem members of more than one big nation commited big warcrimes. Resistent groups would be thought of as dangerous cults inside of those nations at that time…

  40. Just found you today, and I like what you're doing 🙂 I made a video similarly to this a few months back, answering the question you touched on "What distinguishes a cult from a religion?", and basically I found out the biggest indicator of a cult is that it has been recently formed. (Thought, Action, and Emotional Manipulation was also a big one). I'll leave the link to the "analogy part" that I think answers the question pretty well, and that you and most people will enjoy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFIRK9_1ri4&t=210s

  41. 5:27 And Hamilton Burr? I'm sorry I don't know what that said but HAMILTON and Burr! Oh wait nvm this dude hurt children…

  42. The misuse of the term and labeling of cults is very dangerous because it plays on a basic aspect of all humanity, which is to group together with other people for various reasons. For example, why aren't fraternities considered cults? They employ all the same aspects of a 'cult' and people have died trying to join them. Why aren't churches considered cults? They usually have one charismatic leader who is considered at the least 'in a closer communion with the deity'. They employ memberships. They have an expectation of their members "voluntarily" giving them money (and sometimes churches do inquire about their member's earnings to make sure the "proper" amount was given). Sometimes their members are whipped into a spiritual frenzy that one could say resembles a possession. Isn't that a cult? Why not sports teams and their followings? The problem with the use of the word cult in America today is that not everyone who qualifies as a cult is labeled as a cult. Who decides who is a cult anyway? Basically, it's the people who consider themselves "normal" that do the labeling of who is a cult. That in itself is cult-think. How is mainstream America not one big cult? Think about this. Americans are highly led by their media. If the media labels some group a cult, most Americans generally will do no or very little research outside of their media to learn more about it. Americans will take part in group-think and follow the lead of their media. And time has proven that the American media is not neutral but often follows particular political, religious and moralistic ideologies which is often influenced by outside groups with agendas. Why hasn't the American media really highlighted the growing worldwide concerns about the real affects of humans on climate change? Could it be because American culture is largely based on the influence of corporations who profit from climate changing businesses? The previous episode discussed private prisons – which means even the prison system in America has become corporate. Maybe this is why American media doesn't highlight America's abusive prison system which incarcerates more of its citizens than even China. Why do American's accept these things? It's because when you look at what a cult really is, American society itself is mired in cult-ish activity from its school organizations to its media to its churches and religion all the way to its corporate based system of life. There have been organizations (particularly in Black communities) that were labeled as cults but actually did a lot of good in their communities. So then why did they deserve the negative overtones of being labeled a cult? Because a bigger cult – American society – labeled them so, and so that's what they were. That in itself is the definition of a cult. But nobody wants to admit they have been that easily influenced. It's easier to point at people who decided they want a different approach to life and label them a cult, which makes it easier to tell oneself they aren't that easily "influenced". But sadly, most people are. And have been. And that is what we've grown to call "normal" in America. Thinking outside the very controlled box is not popular here. America itself is a cult.

  43. Blackmail is never to be seen, as who will admit it. I believe, it's done, far more. In these so called wierd shootings. I feel there are groups that are literally paid big bucks to infiltrate people to set them up!! I feel tons of people have had this done.

  44. Interesting that the Branch Davidian weren’t mentioned. Waco became a huge problem for the government.

  45. Anthropologists have a more clear cut distinction between cults and religions. I grew up in a cult. The definition given here, while understandably focused around time could have been shortened and also more clear. It wouldn’t have taken that long. It’s ok though.

    I’m trying to remember exactly what my anthro professor said about it but it’s been years. I just recall it was maybe three sentences at most.

  46. I think most people have a definition of cult that includes all other religions but their own. If a religion were objectively false, and its adhereants were devoting their lives, their time, their money, because they were indoctrinated to be true, we would universally agree it is a terrible thing that needs to be done away with. And yet, that's how most religions view all other religions. The trouble is, there's no consensus on what religion is actually true. So the larger religions team up against the smaller.

  47. Charles Manson is nothing against Abrahamic cults and their prophets. Abrahamic prophets killed thousands of people and their followers killed millions of people since more than 1500 years.

  48. This is a great rundown of cults. It seems to me that some business leaders use techniques that are similar to cults to create a personality following. Anyway, appreciative of the effort in this video. Your're a great presenter.

  49. You didn't mention that town in Wyoming that the sunnys (?) took over, the bagwan…. I can't remember, something like that

  50. The main way I make a difference between a cult and a religion is money. Regular churches want some of your money, but a cult wants all of it.

  51. I have been followed and had two goons looking for me because I know way too much. It starts with scien and ends tology. They are scary people. They can easily make you disappear. I would say more, but I’m trying to avoid them.

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