The BEST Cooling Solution – Air or Water – FINAL ANSWER


This video on air versus water cooling has two million views. It looks like crap Time for an HD remake And, it’s not just a pure sellout move to capitalize on an idea that we already know works because a lot more has changed since that video, than our production values around here In particular AMD’s High performance, not to mention huge and hot, 180 watt threadripper CPUs are pushing the limits of all types of cooling systems in ways that we have never seen before So what’s the ultimate cooler for the ultimate CPU? We have the answer The white Dark Base Pro 900 from Be Quiet features a modular design to support a variety of layouts and configurations. Check it out at the link below. We’ll be testing six coolers that on previous platforms have delivered comparable results Three air and three liquid For water coolers, AMD helpfully provided an Asatek compatible TR4 mount in the CPU box, so we’re able to use our existing stable of compatible Corsair H series AIOs, which is cool, because that means so can you. We’ve Got 120 millimeter, 240 millimeter, and 280 millimeter radiator versions with all of them featuring the same Asatek design CPU block and in the H115i’s case, a slightly more powerful pump. In a stroke of either luck or AMD foresight, the blocks are just big enough, that even though the heat spreader sticks out, the heat producing die area for threadripper is covered So while these are mainly meant for more square CPUs we have no reason to believe that you Should Worry about it as for our Air coolers well due to Their Wildly Varying Shapes and Mounting Mechanisms Not many of Them have Been retrofitted with Support for socket TR4 yet. Which is where Noctua’s new line-up comes in. They’re Visually and for The most Part Functionally Identical to their non TR4 cousins but when you turn them over, you are immediately greeted with plates Big and Shiny enough to host a Fancy Dinner Party This Huge Mount is common on each of them right down to the 92 millimeter NHU-9 Because noctua decided to bake in Support for AMD’s on socket Mounting Points, a Good idea Because well let’s just say that taking this apart isn’t a good idea Now to testing. While our old Standard Depth Version of this video discussed performance with different custom fan configurations Inside a case our video today Will focus on the temperature differences between the coolers themselves right out of the box so it should then be noted that you could get slightly better performance out of These AIOs by adding more fans in a Push-Pull configuration and the same can be said of the two tower coolers Another trick up our sleeve this time around is that we’re going to be running our threadripper 1950X in both stock and overclocked configurations furthermore, this time we are in a climate controlled 24 degree Celsius Environment, Not my garage during the winter, so our results should be more comparable to what you can achieve at home. But enough talk, let’s Do the Results Starting off then with our H80i-GT and Noctua NHU-9, we’re seeing some pretty ok numbers for stock performance with similar Load temperatures and Package Power Overclocked on the other hand shows Again similar numbers but Markedly lower Package Power For the H80i-GT, meaning that it’s throttling more to maintain that same 87 Degrees so in the lightweight Category air cooling comes Away with a clear Victory The Next step Up is the NH-U12S and H100i v2 and again, we see almost identical numbers between these guys at stock speeds Looking now at the Overclocking Results We’ve Got a Much Narrower Lead for the Noctua fan over the corsair AIO as far as Package Power goes Meaning That They’ve Throttled Just about Evenly so we’re gonna call This one a tie Bringing us to the main event the NH-U14S Weather versus the H115i Gregor, both of them lasted all 12 rounds Maintaining maximum performance in both the stock and Overclocked tests and this is incredible considering we’ve got all 16 cores pinned to 3.9 Gigahertz But This Kind of a Match Isn’t about pinning and the Noctua ran a few degrees cooler so we have to award it the win by technical knockout Of course, performance is only part of the equation Aesthetics and Physical Compatibility are Key Considerations as well Water Coolers do come with an additional mechanical point of failure-the pump But they look sexy and it’s becoming more and more common for small form-factor Cases to Have mounts For 120 or 240mm radiators but not enough clearance for comparable Air Coolers and It’s also worth considering that large AIO coolers like the H115i are Generally far easier to work around inside a chassis than a larger Air cooler especially where RAM slots are concerned With that said price is kind of a big deal – and Noctua’s solutions Even though they’re not the cheapest air coolers out there Generally come out ahead of the Water cooling equivalents by a significant margin here So TL:DR, then if you’re not planning on overclocking Threadripper, it’s actually a relatively easy beast to tame But overclock it and You’ll need to set aside some budget for a beefy cooler Also if your priority is performance You’ll reach for an air cooler or custom water cooling. 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100 thoughts on “The BEST Cooling Solution – Air or Water – FINAL ANSWER”

  1. I don't get the discussion:
    Air cooler:
    – Cheaper
    – Less maintenance
    – fewer points of failure
    – less power consumption
    – no erosion
    – same if not better cooling

    Every PC enthusiast who puts looks over performance and longevity is not an enthusiast in my opinion. And especially when it comes to Threadrippers, we're talking workstations, not gaming PCs, so these are PCs for grown ups not kids who fancy rainbows.

  2. If these coolers were tested in an open case (as video indicates) then of course the results would be close. If the tests were all closed cases, then I think the AIO Coolers would take the lead.

  3. water cooling is just for people who like the look and like doing things alittle differently. Really not worth the hassle if you ask me.

  4. 1:30 my brain.exe stopped working. That whole bit I was looking at the fan sizes not the radiators.
    I'm like " Where do you even find a 20 mm fan? No way those are two 40 mm fans. Two 80 mm!?… oh.."
    Facepalm

  5. So… from watching this and "why you shouldn't water cool your PC", the takeaway is water for small form factor PCs that need to be portable while having high-performance cooling, air for everything else.

  6. How does the liquid cooler work? do i need to change the "liquid" after a time? i'm a noob help me out.

  7. Surely a major issue that would help someone decide would also be how quiet the cooler is. It was very surprising that you didn't mention it at all let alone test for it.

  8. Very bad visualization and intepreting of the results here.

    The package power of the smallest examples was lower on water on stock AND OC, Not only on OC.

    Also, switching the rows from air to water and back in between the different graphs is very bad practice and makes the results harder to read and compare.

  9. High treadripper hard beast to tame then try to tame my special edition Silverton i7 10 core CPU Runs at 60c on idle and throttle from the awesome stock 4.1GHZ to 2.03GHZ on load and am a nzxt kraken x72 btw but hey you talked about performance and thermals what about sound ohhaha haha

  10. I'll help u guys. Air. If water-cooling breaks, water will break all your expensive stuff. If air cooller breaks – it will only break the mb

  11. I9, 9900k and 16gb ram. I max at 64 degrees running prime 95 with a coolermaster 212 hyper black. Can’t beat that for about $40.

  12. Save your time:

    Air cooled: if you want an easy to clean and compact system that guarantees your parts inside won’t break.

    Water cooled: cools down a lot more but also get this is you want your liquid leaking all over your other pc parts.

  13. it depends? seriously, how the fuck do braindeads like you get 9 million subs? air cooling wins every single time.

    less expensive
    no troubles with pumps failing or leaks
    lasts a lifetime

    the only advantage an aio has is that it takes less space in your case.

    ''it depends''? you cant be serious. you watercooling fanboys need to get your heads out of your asses and simply admit defeat. thats all it is. 9 million subs for someone as retarded as this or that jayz two cents . at least jayztwocents admits that air cooling is better and cheaper than comparible aios. you linus are truly braindead because of the fanboyism. how do i block this channel from ever showing up again?

  14. the only problem you may have with air cooling is that it may block RAM with larger heatsinks.
    But generally the high tier on both ends should work just fine.
    Besides for you to get the best results, then you have no choice but go for actual Liquid Cooling. As discrete liquid cooling can only take you so far.

  15. My custom water cooling loop sprung a leak at around 11 months …cracked cpu block acrylic. Gladly the drip was onto a plastic cover on the mb and the gpu was vertical mounted with a well insulated riser cable….went dark rock slim…been a noctua fan but hate the color, not willing to pay double the price (to add the chromax covers/fans), and didn't want to cover my corsair rgb ram

  16. hahaha. 9 cm noctua air cooler is better than 12 cm push pull corsair h80gt liquid cooler and the others noctuas are better than the other corsair liquid coolers. liquid cooler is trash

  17. My enormous chassis combined with the prism fan that came with my 3700X keeps my gpu under 63 degrees even when overclocked and under stress testing. It worked out well for me.

  18. Just Get A Mini Fridge, Smoll Fridge, Use It As A System To Cool The Liquid Cooling The PC. Bam! You Get Good Performance. If Want Better Cooling? Use A Liquid Which Conducts Heat And Increase It To Maximum Flow Speed.

  19. It depends…seriously I came here for results. I need to know this like a herpes test (no I don't have the herp)

  20. I am convinced, watercooling is BS, i used an H100 since 2011 and although it failed only one (pump failure) I don't see the point in adding th additional risk if there is no performance boost

  21. You push the power button on your PC and nothing happens. You notice the case on your desk is sitting in a small pool of water and the pool is dripping off the edge of the desk and has found way into the top drawer where you keep your spare bare SSDs! BAAM! Science: water and electronics don't mix. The water cooler in your space capsule main PC leaks and the pump pushes out millions of tiny water particles which gets sucked into your $18K Macbook and you can no longer watch You tube during your breaks and you can't see anything out of your steamed over ports/windows and your digital camera is dead from a short anyway. BAM!

  22. Was air cooling my R7 2700 @ 4,1ghz… pulled the trigger on a 240mm AIO and haven't looked back! Temps are 10° cooler at idle and 15° cooler under load…

  23. This aio liquid coolers are a complete scam. They have no performance bebefits, draw more power and have more failure points

  24. I guess the bigger question i would have is simply.. i always used air cooled PC's.
    My current one still runs great even though it is an outdated 4770k with DDR3. The only real value and more up to date thing in ther eis my 1080TI
    But here is my question. My current one heats up my room like mad. On winter days i do not even have to use my radiator, because it is just cozy warm even with my window open. But on summer times.. it is really.. barely bearable. My window has to be open 24/7 and i leave open my shutters at night, so i have comfortable way to play.

    So would be watercooling a better solution? Would it heat up my room less? Or would it be pretty much the same?

  25. Water coolers only have potential mechanical failure point = pump? So how about fans in your air cooler? Its not gonna work well without them…

  26. I have water cooling but Id only reccommend it if you're someone who does 3d modelling and rendering almost 24/7 aka me.
    If you're just a gamer Air cooling works just fine!

  27. i have an important question: will an alpenföhn ben nevis (thats a cpu cooler) cool my i7 9700K good for whan im gaming?

  28. So I just wan´t to know the best cooling capacity/wh(watt hour). No need to involve a CPU at all. I mean it´s not about CPU´s, it´s about cooling. You just get coolers that are the same size at the cooling side and messaure which one takes the least wattage to cool the most. And if there is a cap in one of the technologies, like watercooled can reach this temperature with more power while aircooled caps out at this temperature. Not that hard, is it? Wattage in, temperature out. I mean with an external watercooler/radiator you also could build a larger aircooler. I need apples to apples!

  29. I think watercooling is too much of a hassle for some lower temps. Instead of water, a humming pump and 57 fans… How about a massive air cooler with two big Noctuas. 2°C more and a lot of bubbling humming stuff less?

    If you really like humming sounds how about a minibar fridge pump and radiator and making the coolant flow through the cooling block or so. At least you get real low temps… with lovely humming 😉

  30. Linus , and how to say, is it better to go to bed with a woman or with a man? 100 times better AIO water cooling ! Just calculate the temperature inside the case….what questions

  31. I skipped perfectly to the “It depends” part of the video immediately then left after those words, that is all I need to hear. Thank you and bye bye.

  32. Air cooling will always be better. Water is only good for making the changes slow (both hot to cold and cold to hot). Please understand the physics of it.

    The higher the temperature, the easier the heat will "leak". You want your heatsink to operate at higher temperatures rather than lower to dissipate heat better. Water coolers take longer to achieve temperatures that are high enough for the heat to "leak" into the environment. Water cooler will be slower to heat up, but also slower to cool down. And it will not cool better than air cooler.

    Only compressors can achieve better cooling because they can concentrate more heat into a smaller radiator and therefore the radiator will "leak" a ton of heat into the environment.

  33. Is there an update to this video? More than two years later I expect manufacturers have come out with better air and water coolers, right?

  34. Liquid would be better and more efficient, but for a low budget micro ATX build I’ll just use the stock air cooler. Sad.

  35. I still believe the key to a cooler CPU is proper application of thermal paste. For years, I would 1st spread a very thin film of paste on the CPU. Making sure the amount is so thin that one can hardly see it, but it's there. Then I apply the common "pea" size paste in the middle of the CPU. My CPU temp average (idle): 20°C to 30°C (non-overclocked).

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