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WE WILL SEE WHAT SHE HAS TO SAY ABOUT DONALD TRUMP’S LOCKED AND ABOUT DONALD TRUMP’S LOCKED AND LOADED RESPONSE TO THE DRONE LOADED RESPONSE TO THE DRONE STRIKE ON THE SAUDI OIL STRIKE ON THE SAUDI OIL FACILITY. FACILITY. WE BEGIN WITH THE NEW WE BEGIN WITH THE NEW IMPEACHMENT QUESTION THAT HAS IMPEACHMENT QUESTION THAT HAS ENTERED THE PRESIDENTIAL ENTERED THE PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN THIS WEEKEND, SHOULD CAMPAIGN THIS WEEKEND, SHOULD SUPREME COURT JUSTICE BRETT SUPREME COURT JUSTICE BRETT KAVANAUGH BE IMPEACHED? KAVANAUGH BE IMPEACHED? AT LEAST SIX DEMOCRATIC AT LEAST SIX DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES SAY YES. PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES SAY YES. JOE BIDEN SAYS THERE SHOULD BE JOE BIDEN SAYS THERE SHOULD BE AN INVESTIGATION, SAYING WE MUST AN INVESTIGATION, SAYING WE MUST FOLLOW TO EVIDENCE TO WHEREVER FOLLOW TO EVIDENCE TO WHEREVER IT LEADS. IT LEADS. AND PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE AMY AND PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE AMY KLOBUCHAR, WHO WAS ONE OF THE KLOBUCHAR, WHO WAS ONE OF THE DEMOCRATS WHO QUESTIONED BRETT DEMOCRATS WHO QUESTIONED BRETT KAVANAUGH IN HIS SENATE KAVANAUGH IN HIS SENATE CONFIRMATION HEARING, IS NOW CONFIRMATION HEARING, IS NOW DEMANDING THAT THE WHITE HOUSE DEMANDING THAT THE WHITE HOUSE AND ATTORNEY GENERAL WILLIAM AND ATTORNEY GENERAL WILLIAM BARR HAND OVER MATERIALS FROM BARR HAND OVER MATERIALS FROM THE FBI BACKGROUND INVESTIGATION THE FBI BACKGROUND INVESTIGATION OF BRETT KAVANAUGH IN A LETTER OF BRETT KAVANAUGH IN A LETTER TO THE WHITE HOUSE AND ATTORNEY TO THE WHITE HOUSE AND ATTORNEY GENERAL, SENATOR KLOBUCHAR SAYS GENERAL, SENATOR KLOBUCHAR SAYS RECENT REPORTS HAVE AGAIN CAST RECENT REPORTS HAVE AGAIN CAST DOUBTS ON THE COMPLETENESS OF DOUBTS ON THE COMPLETENESS OF THE INVESTIGATING PROCESS THE INVESTIGATING PROCESS RAISING ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS AS RAISING ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS AS TO WHETHER CERTAIN INFORMATION TO WHETHER CERTAIN INFORMATION WAS FOLLOWED UP ON. WAS FOLLOWED UP ON. THE RECENT REPORTS SENATOR THE RECENT REPORTS SENATOR KLOBUCHAR REFERS TO ARE THE WORK KLOBUCHAR REFERS TO ARE THE WORK OF OUR FIRST GUESTS TONIGHT, OF OUR FIRST GUESTS TONIGHT, “NEW YORK TIMES” REPORTERS ROBIN “NEW YORK TIMES” REPORTERS ROBIN BOB RUBIN AND KATE KELLY WHO BOB RUBIN AND KATE KELLY WHO PUBLISHED AN ARTICLE IN “THE NEW PUBLISHED AN ARTICLE IN “THE NEW YORK TIMES” SUNDAY EDITION YORK TIMES” SUNDAY EDITION POSTED ONLINE SATURDAY NIGHT, POSTED ONLINE SATURDAY NIGHT, WHICH IS AN EDITED EXCERPT OF WHICH IS AN EDITED EXCERPT OF THEIR NEW BOOK PUBLISHED THEIR NEW BOOK PUBLISHED TOMORROW, “THE EDUCATION OF TOMORROW, “THE EDUCATION OF BRETT KAVANAUGH AND BRETT KAVANAUGH AND INVESTIGATION.” INVESTIGATION.” THE ARTICLE IN “THE NEW YORK THE ARTICLE IN “THE NEW YORK TIMES” WAS APPARENTLY ENOUGH FOR TIMES” WAS APPARENTLY ENOUGH FOR DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATES TO CALL DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATES TO CALL FOR IMPEACHMENT. FOR IMPEACHMENT. THE INVESTIGATION CONCENTRATES THE INVESTIGATION CONCENTRATES ON WHAT HAPPENED TO DEBORAH ON WHAT HAPPENED TO DEBORAH RAMIREZ DURING COLLEGE WITH RAMIREZ DURING COLLEGE WITH BRETT KAVANAUGH AND WHAT BRETT KAVANAUGH AND WHAT HAPPENED WHEN SHE TOLD HER STORY HAPPENED WHEN SHE TOLD HER STORY TO THE FBI DURING THE BRETT TO THE FBI DURING THE BRETT KAVANAUGH BACKGROUND KAVANAUGH BACKGROUND INVESTIGATION. INVESTIGATION. DEBORAH RAMIREZ’ STORY FIRST DEBORAH RAMIREZ’ STORY FIRST APPEARED IN “THE NEW YORKER” APPEARED IN “THE NEW YORKER” DURING THE KAVANAUGH DURING THE KAVANAUGH CONFIRMATION PROCESS. CONFIRMATION PROCESS. HERE IS HER BRETT KAVANAUGH HERE IS HER BRETT KAVANAUGH STORY AS IT APPEARS IN THE NEW STORY AS IT APPEARS IN THE NEW BOOK THAT WILL BE PUBLISHED BOOK THAT WILL BE PUBLISHED TOMORROW. TOMORROW. DURING THE DRINKING GAME, DURING THE DRINKING GAME, RAMIREZ SAID THE GUYS KEPT RAMIREZ SAID THE GUYS KEPT PICKING HER TO DRINK MORE, AND PICKING HER TO DRINK MORE, AND SHE BECAME INEBRIATED. SHE BECAME INEBRIATED. AT ONE POINT SOMEONE TRAPPED ON AT ONE POINT SOMEONE TRAPPED ON A FAKE PENIS AND POINTED IT AT A FAKE PENIS AND POINTED IT AT HER. HER. THEN LATER RAMIREZ SAID SHE HAD THEN LATER RAMIREZ SAID SHE HAD A PENIS THRUST IN HER FACE. A PENIS THRUST IN HER FACE. SHE REMEMBERED PUSHING IT AWAY SHE REMEMBERED PUSHING IT AWAY AND SAYING THAT’S NOT A REAL AND SAYING THAT’S NOT A REAL PENIS, BUT THIS PENIS WAS REAL PENIS, BUT THIS PENIS WAS REAL AND SHE WOULD RECALL SHE HAD AND SHE WOULD RECALL SHE HAD ACCIDENTALLY TOUCHED ONE FOR THE ACCIDENTALLY TOUCHED ONE FOR THE FIRST TIME. FIRST TIME. IT WAS SOMETHING SHE HADN’T IT WAS SOMETHING SHE HADN’T PLANNED TO DO UNTIL SHE WAS PLANNED TO DO UNTIL SHE WAS MARRIED. MARRIED. SHE REMEMBERED THEM LAUGHING AT SHE REMEMBERED THEM LAUGHING AT HER CONFUSION THAT EVENING AND HER CONFUSION THAT EVENING AND KAVANAUGH PULLING UP HIS PANTS KAVANAUGH PULLING UP HIS PANTS LOOKING PUFFED UP LIKE HE JUST LOOKING PUFFED UP LIKE HE JUST DID SOMETHING REALLY, REALLY DID SOMETHING REALLY, REALLY GREAT AND TILTING HIS HEAD BACK GREAT AND TILTING HIS HEAD BACK ALSO LAUGHING. ALSO LAUGHING. SHE REMEMBERED HEARING DAVID SHE REMEMBERED HEARING DAVID WHITE YELL DOWN THE HALL, BRETT WHITE YELL DOWN THE HALL, BRETT KAVANAUGH JUST PUT HIS PENIS IN KAVANAUGH JUST PUT HIS PENIS IN DEBBIE’S FACE. DEBBIE’S FACE. AFTER THAT STORY FIRST BECAME IF AFTER THAT STORY FIRST BECAME IF YOU BE IN “THE NEW YORKER,” THE YOU BE IN “THE NEW YORKER,” THE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE DIDN’T ASK JUDICIARY COMMITTEE DIDN’T ASK DEBORAH RAMIREZ TO TESTIFY. DEBORAH RAMIREZ TO TESTIFY. AND THEN THE CHAIRMAN OF THE AND THEN THE CHAIRMAN OF THE COMMITTEE, KRUCK GRASSLEY SAID, COMMITTEE, KRUCK GRASSLEY SAID, THERE IS NO CORROBORATION OF THE THERE IS NO CORROBORATION OF THE ALLEGATIONS MADE BY DR. FORD OR ALLEGATIONS MADE BY DR. FORD OR MS. RAMIREZ. MS. RAMIREZ. HE WAS REFERRING TO, OF COURSE, HE WAS REFERRING TO, OF COURSE, DR. CHRISTINE BLASEY FORD, WHO DR. CHRISTINE BLASEY FORD, WHO DID TELL HER STORY TO THE DID TELL HER STORY TO THE COMMITTEE UNDER OATH ON A COMMITTEE UNDER OATH ON A NATIONALLY TELEVISED HEARING. NATIONALLY TELEVISED HEARING. THE REPORTERS SAY MS. RAMIREZ’S THE REPORTERS SAY MS. RAMIREZ’S LEGAL TEAM GAVE THE FBI A LIST LEGAL TEAM GAVE THE FBI A LIST OF AT LEAST 25 INDIVIDUALS WHO OF AT LEAST 25 INDIVIDUALS WHO MAY HAVE HAD CORROBORATING MAY HAVE HAD CORROBORATING EVIDENCE BUT THE BUREAU IN EVIDENCE BUT THE BUREAU IN ITSELF SUBPOENA MENTAL ITSELF SUBPOENA MENTAL BACKGROUND INVESTIGATION BACKGROUND INVESTIGATION INTERVIEWED NONE OF THEM, THOUGH INTERVIEWED NONE OF THEM, THOUGH WE LEARNED MANY OF THESE WE LEARNED MANY OF THESE POTENTIAL WITNESSES TRIED IN POTENTIAL WITNESSES TRIED IN VAIN TO REACH THE FBI ON THEIR VAIN TO REACH THE FBI ON THEIR OWN, TWO FBI AGENTS INTERVIEWED OWN, TWO FBI AGENTS INTERVIEWED MS. RAMIREZ TELLING HER THEY MS. RAMIREZ TELLING HER THEY FOUND HER CREDIBLE, BUT THE FOUND HER CREDIBLE, BUT THE REPUBLICAN-CONTROLLED SENATE HAD REPUBLICAN-CONTROLLED SENATE HAD IMPOSED STRICT LIMITS ON THE IMPOSED STRICT LIMITS ON THE INVESTIGATION. INVESTIGATION. WE HAVE TO WAIT TO GET WE HAVE TO WAIT TO GET AUTHORIZATION TO DO ANYTHING AUTHORIZATION TO DO ANYTHING ELSE. ELSE. ONE OF MS. RAMIREZ’S LAWYERS ONE OF MS. RAMIREZ’S LAWYERS RECALLED SAYING THE CALL WAS RECALLED SAYING THE CALL WAS APOLOGETIC. APOLOGETIC. THE BOOK CONTAINED A NEW THE BOOK CONTAINED A NEW REVELATION ABOUT ANOTHER STORY REVELATION ABOUT ANOTHER STORY THAT CAME TO THE ATTENTION OF THAT CAME TO THE ATTENTION OF SOME OF THE MEMBERS OF THE SOME OF THE MEMBERS OF THE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE AT THE TIME, JUDICIARY COMMITTEE AT THE TIME, BUT IT WAS NEVER MADE PUBLIC BUT IT WAS NEVER MADE PUBLIC DURING THE CONFIRMATION PROCESS. DURING THE CONFIRMATION PROCESS. THIS STORY OCCUPIES LESS THAN THIS STORY OCCUPIES LESS THAN ONE PAGE OF THE BOOK, AND ONLY ONE PAGE OF THE BOOK, AND ONLY ONE PARAGRAPH OF THIS WEEKEND’S ONE PARAGRAPH OF THIS WEEKEND’S “NEW YORK TIMES” ARTICLE. “NEW YORK TIMES” ARTICLE. HERE IS THAT PARAGRAPH FROM THE HERE IS THAT PARAGRAPH FROM THE “TIMES.” “TIMES.” WE ALSO UNCOVERED A PREVIOUSLY WE ALSO UNCOVERED A PREVIOUSLY UNREPORTED STORY ABOUT MR. UNREPORTED STORY ABOUT MR. KAVANAUGH IN HIS FRESHMAN YEAR KAVANAUGH IN HIS FRESHMAN YEAR THAT ECHOS MS. RAMIREZ’S THAT ECHOS MS. RAMIREZ’S ALLEGATION. ALLEGATION. A CLASSMATE, MAX STEER, SAW MR. A CLASSMATE, MAX STEER, SAW MR. KAVANAUGH WITH HIS PANTS DOWN AT KAVANAUGH WITH HIS PANTS DOWN AT A DIFFERENT DRUNKEN DORM PARTY A DIFFERENT DRUNKEN DORM PARTY WHERE FRIENDS PUSHED HIS PENIS WHERE FRIENDS PUSHED HIS PENIS INTO THE HAND OF A FEMALE INTO THE HAND OF A FEMALE STUDENT. STUDENT. MR. STEER, WHO RUNS A NONPROFIT MR. STEER, WHO RUNS A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION IN WASHINGTON, ORGANIZATION IN WASHINGTON, NOTIFIED SENATORS AND THE FBI NOTIFIED SENATORS AND THE FBI ABOUT THIS ACCOUNT, BUT THE FBI ABOUT THIS ACCOUNT, BUT THE FBI DID NOT INVESTIGATE AND MR. DID NOT INVESTIGATE AND MR. STEER HAS DECLINED TO DISCUSS IT STEER HAS DECLINED TO DISCUSS IT PUBLICLY. PUBLICLY. WE HAVE CORROBORATED WITH TWO WE HAVE CORROBORATED WITH TWO OFFICIALS. OFFICIALS. NBC NEWS HAS CONFIRMED THAT NBC NEWS HAS CONFIRMED THAT MEMBERS OF THE JUDICIARY MEMBERS OF THE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE WERE AWARE OF MAX COMMITTEE WERE AWARE OF MAX STEER’S ALLEGATIONS AT THE TIME STEER’S ALLEGATIONS AT THE TIME OF THE CONFIRMATION PROCESS. OF THE CONFIRMATION PROCESS. THE NEW BOOK MAKES ONE MORE THE NEW BOOK MAKES ONE MORE IMPORTANT POINT ABOUT THAT IMPORTANT POINT ABOUT THAT STORY. STORY. THE BOOK GIVES THE NAME OF THE THE BOOK GIVES THE NAME OF THE WOMAN INVOLVED IN THAT STORY AND WOMAN INVOLVED IN THAT STORY AND THEN SPECIMENIFIES THAT SHE, THEN SPECIMENIFIES THAT SHE, QUOTE, HAS ALSO REFUSED TO QUOTE, HAS ALSO REFUSED TO DISCUSS THE INCIDENT THOUGH DISCUSS THE INCIDENT THOUGH SEVERAL OF HER FRIENDS SAID SHE SEVERAL OF HER FRIENDS SAID SHE DOES NOT RECALL IT. DOES NOT RECALL IT. THE “TIMES” LATER ON SUNDAY THE “TIMES” LATER ON SUNDAY ADDED THAT LINE TO THE END OF ADDED THAT LINE TO THE END OF THE PARAGRAPH ABOUT MAX SATIRE’S THE PARAGRAPH ABOUT MAX SATIRE’S ACCUSATION. ACCUSATION. THAT LINE READS, THE FEMALE THAT LINE READS, THE FEMALE STUDENT DECLINED TO BE STUDENT DECLINED TO BE INTERVIEWED AND FRIENDS SAY SHE INTERVIEWED AND FRIENDS SAY SHE DOES NOT RECALL THE END. DOES NOT RECALL THE END. LEADING OFF OUR DISCUSSION LEADING OFF OUR DISCUSSION TONIGHT, ARE ROBIN POAGE BIN AND TONIGHT, ARE ROBIN POAGE BIN AND INDICATE KELLY WHO WHERE I SEE INDICATE KELLY WHO WHERE I SEE FOR “THE NEW YORK TIMES.” FOR “THE NEW YORK TIMES.” THE BOOK WILL BE OUT TOMORROW. THE BOOK WILL BE OUT TOMORROW. FIRST OF ALL, LET’S START WITH FIRST OF ALL, LET’S START WITH WHAT HAPPENED AT “THE NEW YORK WHAT HAPPENED AT “THE NEW YORK TIMES.” TIMES.” WHAT HAPPENED WITH THAT OMISSION WHAT HAPPENED WITH THAT OMISSION THAT THE “TIMES” LATER FELT THAT THE “TIMES” LATER FELT BELONGED IN THE PIECE? BELONGED IN THE PIECE?>>WELL, FIRST OF ALL, LAWRENCE,>>WELL, FIRST OF ALL, LAWRENCE, THERE WAS ZERO INTENT TO MISLEAD THERE WAS ZERO INTENT TO MISLEAD ANYBODY ABOUT THE DETAILS OF THE ANYBODY ABOUT THE DETAILS OF THE INCIDENT. INCIDENT. THAT EXCERPT WE RAN IN THE THAT EXCERPT WE RAN IN THE “TIMES” WAS AN ADAPTATION OF “TIMES” WAS AN ADAPTATION OF WHAT’S IN OUR BOOK THAT YOU JUST WHAT’S IN OUR BOOK THAT YOU JUST DESCRIBED SO APTLY. DESCRIBED SO APTLY. IT REALLY FOCUSES ON THE IT REALLY FOCUSES ON THE EXPERIENCE OF DEBORAH RAMIREZ AS EXPERIENCE OF DEBORAH RAMIREZ AS WE UNDERSTAND IT, AFTER ROBIN WE UNDERSTAND IT, AFTER ROBIN SPECIAL INTEREST TIME WITH HER, SPECIAL INTEREST TIME WITH HER, WHY THE INCIDENT HIT SO HARD FOR WHY THE INCIDENT HIT SO HARD FOR HER. HER. SHE WAS FEELING LIKE A FISH OUT SHE WAS FEELING LIKE A FISH OUT OF WATER THAT FIRST YEAR OF VEIL OF WATER THAT FIRST YEAR OF VEIL TO BEGIN WITH FOR ANY NUMBER OF TO BEGIN WITH FOR ANY NUMBER OF REASONS. REASONS. SOCIOECONOMIC, CULTURAL AND SO SOCIOECONOMIC, CULTURAL AND SO ON. ON. AND THIS INCIDENT WAS DEEPLY AND THIS INCIDENT WAS DEEPLY TRAUMATIZING FOR HER. TRAUMATIZING FOR HER. THAT WAS THE FOCUS OF THE PIECE. THAT WAS THE FOCUS OF THE PIECE. WE INCLUDED THE ADDITIONAL WE INCLUDED THE ADDITIONAL DETAIL OF THIS OTHER UNREPORTED DETAIL OF THIS OTHER UNREPORTED ALLEGATION BECAUSE IT SEEMED ALLEGATION BECAUSE IT SEEMED GERMANE. GERMANE.>>IN YOUR DRAFT, DID IT INCLUDE>>IN YOUR DRAFT, DID IT INCLUDE THOSE WORDS THAT HAVE SINCE BEEN THOSE WORDS THAT HAVE SINCE BEEN ADDED TO THE ARTICLE? ADDED TO THE ARTICLE?>>IT DID.>>IT DID.>>IT DID.>>IT DID.>>IT DID.>>IT DID. SO SOMEWHERE IN THE EDITING SO SOMEWHERE IN THE EDITING PROCESS, THOSE WONDERS WERE PROCESS, THOSE WONDERS WERE THERE? THERE?>>WE HAD HER NAME AND THE>>WE HAD HER NAME AND THE “TIMES” DOESN’T USUALLY INCLUDE “TIMES” DOESN’T USUALLY INCLUDE THE NAME OF THE VICTIM. THE NAME OF THE VICTIM. AND SO I THINK IN THIS CASE THE AND SO I THINK IN THIS CASE THE EDITORS FELT LIKE MAYBE IT WAS EDITORS FELT LIKE MAYBE IT WAS PROBABLY BETTER TO REMOVE IT. PROBABLY BETTER TO REMOVE IT. IN REMOVING HER NAME, THEY IN REMOVING HER NAME, THEY REMOVED THE OTHER REFERENCE TO REMOVED THE OTHER REFERENCE TO THE FACT THAT SHE DIDN’T THE FACT THAT SHE DIDN’T REMEMBER IT. REMEMBER IT.>>IN YOUR DRAFT FOR THE>>IN YOUR DRAFT FOR THE “TIMES,” YOU USED THE EXACT “TIMES,” YOU USED THE EXACT WORDS IN THE BOOK, THAT I WORDS IN THE BOOK, THAT I DELIBERATELY LEFT OFF THE NAME DELIBERATELY LEFT OFF THE NAME BECAUSE THAT PASSAGE BEGINS WITH BECAUSE THAT PASSAGE BEGINS WITH THE NAME. THE NAME.>>YES.>>YES.>>AND SO IN THEIR REMOVAL OF>>AND SO IN THEIR REMOVAL OF THE NAME, THEY ENDED UP REMOVING THE NAME, THEY ENDED UP REMOVING THE WHOLE — THE WHOLE –>>THE WHOLE SENTENCE.>>THE WHOLE SENTENCE. IT WAS AN EDITING — DONE IN IT WAS AN EDITING — DONE IN HASTE IN THE EDITING PROCESS AS HASTE IN THE EDITING PROCESS AS YOU KNOW FOR CLOSING THE YOU KNOW FOR CLOSING THE SECTION. SECTION.>>WERE YOU INVOLVED IN THE>>WERE YOU INVOLVED IN THE DECISION TO AMEND THIS? DECISION TO AMEND THIS?>>WE DISCUSSED IT.>>WE DISCUSSED IT. THERE WAS SO MUCH HEAT, YOU THERE WAS SO MUCH HEAT, YOU KNOW, EVERYONE HAS BEEN KIND OF KNOW, EVERYONE HAS BEEN KIND OF SEIZING ON VARIOUS ASPECTS THAT SEIZING ON VARIOUS ASPECTS THAT WE DIDN’T WANT THIS TO BE AN WE DIDN’T WANT THIS TO BE AN ISSUE ANYMORE. ISSUE ANYMORE. AND HE WE CERTAINLY NEVER AND HE WE CERTAINLY NEVER INTENDED TO MISLEAD IN ANY WAY. INTENDED TO MISLEAD IN ANY WAY. WE WANTED TO GIVE AS FULL A WE WANTED TO GIVE AS FULL A STORY AS POSSIBLE. STORY AS POSSIBLE.>>THIS WAS A PIECE OF OUR BOOK>>THIS WAS A PIECE OF OUR BOOK WE WERE SHARING THROUGH THE WE WERE SHARING THROUGH THE “TIMES.” “TIMES.” AND THE HOPE WAS THAT PEOPLE AND THE HOPE WAS THAT PEOPLE WILL LOOK AT THE BOOK WHICH HAS WILL LOOK AT THE BOOK WHICH HAS A MUCH FULLER CONTEXT, NOT ONLY A MUCH FULLER CONTEXT, NOT ONLY ABOUT THIS ALLEGATION, ABOUT, ABOUT THIS ALLEGATION, ABOUT, FRANKLY, WHICH NOT A LOT IS FRANKLY, WHICH NOT A LOT IS NORTHERN, WE’RE SHARING WHAT WE NORTHERN, WE’RE SHARING WHAT WE DO KNOW. DO KNOW. BUT ALSO ABOUT ALL THE CONTEXT BUT ALSO ABOUT ALL THE CONTEXT AROUND THESE ALLEGATIONS IN AROUND THESE ALLEGATIONS IN GENERAL, THE SITUATION AT YALE GENERAL, THE SITUATION AT YALE WHEN JUSTICE KAVANAUGH WAS A WHEN JUSTICE KAVANAUGH WAS A STUDENT AND ROBIN WAS A STUDENT STUDENT AND ROBIN WAS A STUDENT THERE, ALL THE CORROBORATION THERE, ALL THE CORROBORATION AROUND THE RAMIREZ ACCOUNT, IT’S AROUND THE RAMIREZ ACCOUNT, IT’S ALL IN THOSE. ALL IN THOSE. WE TRIED TO LOOK AT THINGS FROM WE TRIED TO LOOK AT THINGS FROM A 360-DEGREE PROTECTOR. A 360-DEGREE PROTECTOR.>>WHEN THEY WERE WORKING ON>>WHEN THEY WERE WORKING ON WHAT THEY WERE GOING TO ADD TO WHAT THEY WERE GOING TO ADD TO IT AND THE EDITORS NOTE THEY PUT IT AND THE EDITORS NOTE THEY PUT IN, DID ANYONE CONSIDER IN, DID ANYONE CONSIDER INCLUDING THAT — THE FACT THAT INCLUDING THAT — THE FACT THAT IT WAS IN YOUR ORIGINAL DRAFT OF IT WAS IN YOUR ORIGINAL DRAFT OF THE ARTICLE? THE ARTICLE? THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN CLARIFYING THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN CLARIFYING FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE WONDERING HOW FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE WONDERING HOW THIS HAPPENED. THIS HAPPENED. DID THEY AT ANY POINT INCLUDE DID THEY AT ANY POINT INCLUDE WHAT YOU JUST TOLD US? WHAT YOU JUST TOLD US?>>I’M NOT SURE, BUT I THINK THE>>I’M NOT SURE, BUT I THINK THE DESIRE YOU SEE WAS TO GET THE DESIRE YOU SEE WAS TO GET THE INFORMATION TO THE READERS INFORMATION TO THE READERS BECAUSE THERE HAD BEEN AN ERROR BECAUSE THERE HAD BEEN AN ERROR OF JUDGMENT THAT WAS BEING OF JUDGMENT THAT WAS BEING ADDRESSED, JUST TO MOVE ON TO ADDRESSED, JUST TO MOVE ON TO GIVE PEOPLE THE INFORMATION THEY GIVE PEOPLE THE INFORMATION THEY NEEDED, BUT ALSO TO REMIND NEEDED, BUT ALSO TO REMIND PEOPLE THAT THIS IS AN PEOPLE THAT THIS IS AN ADAPTATION OF A MUCH LONGER WORK ADAPTATION OF A MUCH LONGER WORK THAT’S FORTHCOMING. THAT’S FORTHCOMING.>>DO YOU KNOW WHY MAX STEYER>>DO YOU KNOW WHY MAX STEYER REFUSED TO DO INTERVIEWS WITH REFUSED TO DO INTERVIEWS WITH YOU? YOU?>>MY SENSE IS THAT HE FEELS AS>>MY SENSE IS THAT HE FEELS AS IF HE DID HIS DUTY. IF HE DID HIS DUTY. HE BROUGHT THE INFORMATION HE HE BROUGHT THE INFORMATION HE HAD TO SENATORS AND TO THE FBI. HAD TO SENATORS AND TO THE FBI. HE MADE THEM ALL VERY AWARE THAT HE MADE THEM ALL VERY AWARE THAT HE HAD THIS EXPERIENCE THAT HE HE HAD THIS EXPERIENCE THAT HE HAD WITNESSED FIRSTHAND IN A HAD WITNESSED FIRSTHAND IN A DORM ROOM DURING HIS FRESHMAN DORM ROOM DURING HIS FRESHMAN YEAR AT YALE. YEAR AT YALE. WHAT THEY DID WITH THE WHAT THEY DID WITH THE INFORMATION WAS UP TO THEM. INFORMATION WAS UP TO THEM. IT NEVER MATERIALIZED AND BECAME IT NEVER MATERIALIZED AND BECAME PART OF THE PROCESS. PART OF THE PROCESS. BRETT KAVANAUGH WAS CONFIRMED BRETT KAVANAUGH WAS CONFIRMED AND HE WAS DONE. AND HE WAS DONE. HE HAD DONE HIS PART. HE HAD DONE HIS PART. HE HAD NO INTEREST IN REVISITING HE HAD NO INTEREST IN REVISITING IT. IT.>>IN THE ARTICLE YOU SAY BRETT>>IN THE ARTICLE YOU SAY BRETT KAVANAUGH DIDN’T AGREE TO AN KAVANAUGH DIDN’T AGREE TO AN INTERVIEW BECAUSE YOU COULDN’T INTERVIEW BECAUSE YOU COULDN’T AGREE TO TERMS TO THE INTERVIEW. AGREE TO TERMS TO THE INTERVIEW. WHAT TERMS DID HE WANT? WHAT TERMS DID HE WANT?>>WE HAD BACK AND FORTH WITH>>WE HAD BACK AND FORTH WITH THE SUPREME COURT SPOKESPERSON THE SUPREME COURT SPOKESPERSON ABOUT THIS. ABOUT THIS. ULTIMATELY HE WANTED TO BE ABLE ULTIMATELY HE WANTED TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A SAY THAT HE DECLINED TO HAVE A SAY THAT HE DECLINED TO COMMENT FOR THE BOOK AND WE TO COMMENT FOR THE BOOK AND WE WEREN’T COMFORTABLE DOING THAT WEREN’T COMFORTABLE DOING THAT IF WE WERE GOING TO FIND A IF WE WERE GOING TO FIND A MEETING WITH HIM. MEETING WITH HIM.>>TO DEBORAH RAMIREZ, THIS>>TO DEBORAH RAMIREZ, THIS STORY IS A CULTURAL STORY. STORY IS A CULTURAL STORY. IT’S KIDS FROM DIFFERENT IT’S KIDS FROM DIFFERENT BACKGROUNDS WHO FOUND THEMSELVES BACKGROUNDS WHO FOUND THEMSELVES AT YALE. AT YALE. SHE FELT DISCONNECTED FROM THE SHE FELT DISCONNECTED FROM THE START, AND THEN THIS EXPERIENCE, START, AND THEN THIS EXPERIENCE, AS SHE TELLS IT IN THE BOOK, AS SHE TELLS IT IN THE BOOK, COMPLETELY CHANGES HER SENSE OF COMPLETELY CHANGES HER SENSE OF HER POSITION AT YALE WITH THESE HER POSITION AT YALE WITH THESE PEOPLE. PEOPLE.>>AND I THINK WHAT’S IMPORTANT>>AND I THINK WHAT’S IMPORTANT IS THAT, IT WAS IMPORTANT FOR US IS THAT, IT WAS IMPORTANT FOR US TO FLESH OUT HER STORY BECAUSE, TO FLESH OUT HER STORY BECAUSE, ONE, IT WAS NEVER FULLY ONE, IT WAS NEVER FULLY EXPLORED. EXPLORED. SHE NEVER TESTIFIED AND WE NEVER SHE NEVER TESTIFIED AND WE NEVER HAD THE CHANCE TO HEAR FROM HAD THE CHANCE TO HEAR FROM PEOPLE WHO WERE TRYING TO REACH PEOPLE WHO WERE TRYING TO REACH THE FBI WHO HAD CORROBORATING THE FBI WHO HAD CORROBORATING EVIDENCE TO THE EXTENT THAT THEY EVIDENCE TO THE EXTENT THAT THEY HAD HEARD ABOUT THIS EVENT HAD HEARD ABOUT THIS EVENT CONTEMPORANEOUSLY. CONTEMPORANEOUSLY. HER MOTHER THOUGHT SHE HAD BEEN HER MOTHER THOUGHT SHE HAD BEEN RAPED. RAPED. SHE WAS SO U.P.S. ABOUT THE SHE WAS SO U.P.S. ABOUT THE EXPERIENCE, ALTHOUGH DEBBIE EXPERIENCE, ALTHOUGH DEBBIE DIDN’T TELL HER THE DETAILS AT DIDN’T TELL HER THE DETAILS AT THE TIME. THE TIME. I THINK IT WAS ALSO IMPORTANT TO I THINK IT WAS ALSO IMPORTANT TO SAY THAT IT’S EASY TO MINIMIZE SAY THAT IT’S EASY TO MINIMIZE THESE ALLEGATIONS AND ALSO TO THESE ALLEGATIONS AND ALSO TO LOOK AT THEM AS PILING ON WITH LOOK AT THEM AS PILING ON WITH KAVANAUGH WHEN YOU HAD A LOT OF KAVANAUGH WHEN YOU HAD A LOT OF ALLEGATIONS COMING FAST AND ALLEGATIONS COMING FAST AND FURIOUS. FURIOUS. AND TO REALLY SAY THAT YOU HAVE AND TO REALLY SAY THAT YOU HAVE TO CON TEXT LIES THIS WOMAN’S TO CON TEXT LIES THIS WOMAN’S EXPERIENCE IN ORDER TO EXPERIENCE IN ORDER TO UNDERSTAND WHY THIS WAS UNDERSTAND WHY THIS WAS FORMATIVE FORMATIVE FORMATIVE. FORMATIVE. FOR SOME PEOPLE IT WOULDN’T HAVE FOR SOME PEOPLE IT WOULDN’T HAVE BEEN A BIG DEAL. BEEN A BIG DEAL. FOR HER IT WAS BECAUSE IT FOR HER IT WAS BECAUSE IT CONFIRMED A SENSE OF INADEQUACY CONFIRMED A SENSE OF INADEQUACY SHE HAD. SHE HAD. SHE WAS A PERSON OF COLOR, SHE SHE WAS A PERSON OF COLOR, SHE DIDN’T NECESSARILY — IT WAS NOT DIDN’T NECESSARILY — IT WAS NOT A SEAMLESS TRANSITION FOR HER A SEAMLESS TRANSITION FOR HER THE WAY IT WAS FOR OTHERS. THE WAY IT WAS FOR OTHERS. FRANKLY, IT WAS EASIER FOR ME FRANKLY, IT WAS EASIER FOR ME COMING FROM A PRIVATE SCHOOL IN COMING FROM A PRIVATE SCHOOL IN NEW YORK THAN IT WAS FOR A LOT NEW YORK THAN IT WAS FOR A LOT OF OTHER KIDS COMING TO YALE OF OTHER KIDS COMING TO YALE FROM DIFFERENT BACKGROUNDS. FROM DIFFERENT BACKGROUNDS.>>KATE, HAVING WORKED IN THE>>KATE, HAVING WORKED IN THE SENATE AS I DID AND AS THE STAFF SENATE AS I DID AND AS THE STAFF DIRECTOR OF A COMMITTEE. DIRECTOR OF A COMMITTEE. AS SOON AS THEY ANNOUNCED THEY AS SOON AS THEY ANNOUNCED THEY WERE GOING TO REOPEN THE FBI WERE GOING TO REOPEN THE FBI INVESTIGATION AND THAT THE FBI INVESTIGATION AND THAT THE FBI INVESTIGATION WAS TIME LIMITED INVESTIGATION WAS TIME LIMITED TO A VERY FEW NUMBER OF DAYS, TO A VERY FEW NUMBER OF DAYS, THAT WAS A VERY CLEAR EXPRESSION THAT WAS A VERY CLEAR EXPRESSION TO EVERYONE IN THE SENATE, THIS TO EVERYONE IN THE SENATE, THIS IS GOING TO BE AN EXTREMELY IS GOING TO BE AN EXTREMELY LIMITED INVESTIGATION. LIMITED INVESTIGATION. THERE WAS NOT ANNOUNCEMENT THEY THERE WAS NOT ANNOUNCEMENT THEY COULD HAVE MADE, WHICH IS WE’RE COULD HAVE MADE, WHICH IS WE’RE DELAYING THE HEARING UNTIL THE DELAYING THE HEARING UNTIL THE FBI INVESTIGATION IS COMPLETED, FBI INVESTIGATION IS COMPLETED, WHICH WOULD BE THE NORMAL WHICH WOULD BE THE NORMAL PROCESS FOR A COMMITTEE BUT ONCE PROCESS FOR A COMMITTEE BUT ONCE THEY TIME LIMITED IT, WHAT I’M THEY TIME LIMITED IT, WHAT I’M DISCOVERING IN YOUR BOOK THOUGH DISCOVERING IN YOUR BOOK THOUGH SHOCKING, IS NOT REALLY SHOCKING, IS NOT REALLY SURPRISING TO ME. SURPRISING TO ME. THE FBI DIDN’T INVESTIGATE ALL THE FBI DIDN’T INVESTIGATE ALL SORTS OF OBVIOUS PEOPLE AND SORTS OF OBVIOUS PEOPLE AND QUESTION PEOPLE THEY SHOULD HAVE QUESTION PEOPLE THEY SHOULD HAVE QUESTIONED. QUESTIONED.>>RIGHT.>>RIGHT. PART OF THE CONSENSUS THAT PART OF THE CONSENSUS THAT WAS — THE COMPROMISE THAT WAS WAS — THE COMPROMISE THAT WAS STRUCK BETWEEN SENATOR FLAKE AT STRUCK BETWEEN SENATOR FLAKE AT THE TIME, SENATOR KUNZ, AND ALSO THE TIME, SENATOR KUNZ, AND ALSO WITH THE SUPPORT OF MODERATE WITH THE SUPPORT OF MODERATE REPUBLICANS, WAS THAT IT WOULD REPUBLICANS, WAS THAT IT WOULD BE TIME LIMITED, IT WOULD BE BE TIME LIMITED, IT WOULD BE FOCUSED. FOCUSED. THE FOUR OF THEM ACTUALLY DID THE FOUR OF THEM ACTUALLY DID THE WALK TOGETHER ABOUT HOW MANY THE WALK TOGETHER ABOUT HOW MANY WITNESSES AND IDEAS OF WHICH WITNESSES AND IDEAS OF WHICH WITNESSES PERHAPS OUGHT TO BE WITNESSES PERHAPS OUGHT TO BE TALKED TO. TALKED TO. ONE PERSON WE TALKED TO FOR THE ONE PERSON WE TALKED TO FOR THE BOOK SAID THAT NUMBER MIGHT BE BOOK SAID THAT NUMBER MIGHT BE AS HIGH AS 50. AS HIGH AS 50. ANOTHER SAID DOUBLE DIGITS. ANOTHER SAID DOUBLE DIGITS. IN ANY CASE, IT APPEARED THE IN ANY CASE, IT APPEARED THE WHITE HOUSE, WHICH WAS WHITE HOUSE, WHICH WAS ESSENTIALLY THE CLIENT IN THIS ESSENTIALLY THE CLIENT IN THIS FBI INVESTIGATION, HAD MANDATED FBI INVESTIGATION, HAD MANDATED JUST FOUR INTERVIEWS WITH KEY JUST FOUR INTERVIEWS WITH KEY PARTIES FROM THE ALLEGED FORD PARTIES FROM THE ALLEGED FORD INCIDENT. INCIDENT. ULTIMATELY THAT LIST GREW TO ULTIMATELY THAT LIST GREW TO TEN, BUT WE BOTH SPOKE TO TEN, BUT WE BOTH SPOKE TO NUMEROUS PEOPLE FROM JUSTICE NUMEROUS PEOPLE FROM JUSTICE KAVANAUGH’S HIGH SCHOOL AS WELL KAVANAUGH’S HIGH SCHOOL AS WELL AS YALE AND OTHER PARTS OF HIS AS YALE AND OTHER PARTS OF HIS LIFE AS WELL WHO CONTACTED THE LIFE AS WELL WHO CONTACTED THE FBI. FBI. THERE WAS A SCHOOL TEACHER WHO THERE WAS A SCHOOL TEACHER WHO WAS IN HIS CLASS AT GEORGETOWN WAS IN HIS CLASS AT GEORGETOWN PREP IN SAN FRANCISCO, TOOK A PREP IN SAN FRANCISCO, TOOK A DAY OFF, PREPARED A LETTER, WENT DAY OFF, PREPARED A LETTER, WENT TO THE FBI AND WAS TURNED AWAY, TO THE FBI AND WAS TURNED AWAY, WAS TOLD TO CALL THE TIP LINE, WAS TOLD TO CALL THE TIP LINE, FILE AN ONLINE FORM. FILE AN ONLINE FORM. THERE WAS NO FOLLOW-UP, HE FELT THERE WAS NO FOLLOW-UP, HE FELT HE WASN’T HEARD. HE WASN’T HEARD. AND HE HEARD THIS STORY OVER AND AND HE HEARD THIS STORY OVER AND OVER AGAIN FROM PEOPLE. OVER AGAIN FROM PEOPLE. THIS IS ALSO A VERSION OF WHAT THIS IS ALSO A VERSION OF WHAT HAPPENED TO MAX STEYER, BUT HE HAPPENED TO MAX STEYER, BUT HE HAD MORE DIRECT CONTACT WITH HAD MORE DIRECT CONTACT WITH LAWMAKERS. LAWMAKERS.>>WE HAVE REPORTS THAT HE HAD>>WE HAVE REPORTS THAT HE HAD DIRECT CONTACT WITH SENATOR KUNZ DIRECT CONTACT WITH SENATOR KUNZ AND OTHERS. AND OTHERS. HE KNEW THEM. HE KNEW THEM. THEY KNEW HIM. THEY KNEW HIM. THEY HAD A SENSE OF HIS THEY HAD A SENSE OF HIS CREDIBILITY. CREDIBILITY. I WANT TO TALK ABOUT ONE OF THE I WANT TO TALK ABOUT ONE OF THE MOST SURPRISING THINGS THAT I MOST SURPRISING THINGS THAT I READ, WHICH IS LITERALLY THE READ, WHICH IS LITERALLY THE LAST LINE OF “THE NEW YORK LAST LINE OF “THE NEW YORK TIMES” ARTICLE. TIMES” ARTICLE. THIS IS DEBORAH RAMIREZ. THIS IS DEBORAH RAMIREZ. AFTER WHAT YOU JUST TALKED AFTER WHAT YOU JUST TALKED ABOUT, THIS VERY FRUSTRATING ABOUT, THIS VERY FRUSTRATING EXPERIENCE WITH THE FBI, YOU EXPERIENCE WITH THE FBI, YOU TALKED TO A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO TALKED TO A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE BITTER AND ANGRY ABOUT THE ARE BITTER AND ANGRY ABOUT THE WAY THIS INVESTIGATION WENT AND WAY THIS INVESTIGATION WENT AND DIDN’T INCLUDE THEM. DIDN’T INCLUDE THEM. AND SHE SAYS, YOU CAN’T LOOK AT AND SHE SAYS, YOU CAN’T LOOK AT JUSTICE AS JUST THE CONFIRMATION JUSTICE AS JUST THE CONFIRMATION VOTE. VOTE. DEBORAH RAMIREZ SAID, THERE IS DEBORAH RAMIREZ SAID, THERE IS SO MUCH GOOD THAT CAME OUT OF SO MUCH GOOD THAT CAME OUT OF IT. IT. THERE IS SO MUCH MORE GOOD TO THERE IS SO MUCH MORE GOOD TO COME. COME. WHAT DID SHE MEAN BY THE GOOD? WHAT DID SHE MEAN BY THE GOOD?>>I THINK IN THE CASE OF>>I THINK IN THE CASE OF CHRISTINE BLASEY FORD, THIS CHRISTINE BLASEY FORD, THIS EXPERIENCE IS ONE SHE MAY HAVE EXPERIENCE IS ONE SHE MAY HAVE REGRETTED COMING FORWARD GIVEN REGRETTED COMING FORWARD GIVEN WHAT SHE’S BEEN THROUGH WHAT SHE’S BEEN THROUGH PERSONALLY AND CONTINUES TO GO PERSONALLY AND CONTINUES TO GO THROUGH IN TERMS OF JUST HER THROUGH IN TERMS OF JUST HER FAMILY AND HOW THIS HAS UPENDED FAMILY AND HOW THIS HAS UPENDED HER LIFE. HER LIFE. PERHAPS BECAUSE DEBORAH RAMIREZ PERHAPS BECAUSE DEBORAH RAMIREZ DIDN’T EFFECTIVE TESTIFY AND DIDN’T EFFECTIVE TESTIFY AND WASN’T PUBLICLY VILIFIED, SHE WASN’T PUBLICLY VILIFIED, SHE GOT SAME OUTPOURING OF SUPPORT GOT SAME OUTPOURING OF SUPPORT THAT CHRISTINE BLASEY FORD GOT THAT CHRISTINE BLASEY FORD GOT BUT KIND OF WITHOUT THE DOWNSIDE BUT KIND OF WITHOUT THE DOWNSIDE QUITE AS MUCH. QUITE AS MUCH. CERTAINLY THERE WERE THREATENING CERTAINLY THERE WERE THREATENING EMAILS AND TEXTS, BUT GENERALLY EMAILS AND TEXTS, BUT GENERALLY SHE WAS VERY MUCH BUOYED BY SHE WAS VERY MUCH BUOYED BY PEOPLE COMING OUT OF WOOD WORK PEOPLE COMING OUT OF WOOD WORK SAYING YOU MADE ME FEEL SAYING YOU MADE ME FEEL VALIDATE. VALIDATE. I WENT THROUGH WHAT YOU WENT I WENT THROUGH WHAT YOU WENT THROUGH, YOU’RE A HERO NOWHERE THROUGH, YOU’RE A HERO NOWHERE COMING FORWARD, MEN WHO ARE COMING FORWARD, MEN WHO ARE TALKING TO THEIR SONS IN A TALKING TO THEIR SONS IN A DIFFERENT WAY. DIFFERENT WAY. SHE MADE THEM NEWLY SENSITIVE TO SHE MADE THEM NEWLY SENSITIVE TO THIS EXPERIENCE. THIS EXPERIENCE. PEOPLE HAVE STARTED TO TALK PEOPLE HAVE STARTED TO TALK ABOUT THESE ISSUES AND STARTED ABOUT THESE ISSUES AND STARTED TO BE MORE SENSITIVE IN A WAY TO BE MORE SENSITIVE IN A WAY THAT HOPEFULLY WILL BE LASTING. THAT HOPEFULLY WILL BE LASTING.>>KATE, IT READS AS IF SHE FELT>>KATE, IT READS AS IF SHE FELT MORE CONNECTED TO HER YALE MORE CONNECTED TO HER YALE CLASSMATES THAN SHE DID WHEN SHE CLASSMATES THAN SHE DID WHEN SHE WAS THERE AS A STUDENT. WAS THERE AS A STUDENT.>>RIGHT.>>RIGHT. IT’S SO INTERESTING. IT’S SO INTERESTING. THIS IS PART OF THE BEAUTY OF THIS IS PART OF THE BEAUTY OF ROBIN’S REPORTING AND WRITING ROBIN’S REPORTING AND WRITING BECAUSE SHE DUG DOWN ON THE BECAUSE SHE DUG DOWN ON THE RAMIREZ SITUATION. RAMIREZ SITUATION. I MEAN, SHE WENT FROM FEELING I MEAN, SHE WENT FROM FEELING REJECTED BY ONE GROUP OF REJECTED BY ONE GROUP OF STUDENTS AT YALE TO FEELING STUDENTS AT YALE TO FEELING REALLY SUPPORTED BY ANOTHER EVEN REALLY SUPPORTED BY ANOTHER EVEN LARGER GROUP BEYOND JUST THE LARGER GROUP BEYOND JUST THE CLASS OF ’87 AND ENCOMPASSING CLASS OF ’87 AND ENCOMPASSING MANY MORE PEOPLE. MANY MORE PEOPLE. SHE DOES HAVE THIS SENSE OF SHE DOES HAVE THIS SENSE OF OPTIMISM THAT’S BUOYING FOR OPTIMISM THAT’S BUOYING FOR OTHER PEOPLE BECAUSE THIS HAS OTHER PEOPLE BECAUSE THIS HAS BEEN A SAD CHAPTER. BEEN A SAD CHAPTER.>>THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR>>THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR JOINING US. JOINING US. THAT IS VERY PERSONAL BOOK. THAT IS VERY PERSONAL BOOK. THERE’S A LOT OF MATERIAL THAT I THERE’S A LOT OF MATERIAL THAT I DIDN’T GET TO. DIDN’T GET TO. THE BOOKENDS WITH YOUR OWN THE BOOKENDS WITH YOUR OWN PERSONAL REACTIONS TO EVERYTHING PERSONAL REACTIONS TO EVERYTHING THAT YOU LEARNED, AND I HOPE THAT YOU LEARNED, AND I HOPE PEOPLE READ IT.

100 thoughts on “NY Times Reporters On Kavanaugh Reporting And Controversial Editor’s Note | The Last Word | MSNBC”

  1. Another ploy to remove an innocent person from the bench to stop Roe v Wade from being overturned. The godless always do things the corrupt way, but God has a plan for these swamp beasts, and it started with the loss of Hillary.

  2. Secular fascism the platform of a global initiative. The mask of the obsessive compulsive moral imperative, a mask of the control freak cult of MSNBC. Every day the termites of the lower classes gnaw away at the supportive structure of the corrupt secular fascist "institutions of democracy". That which allows lofty secular fascism to subvert and corrupt actual democracy at every wheelhouse turn. Yes come back down here with the rest of us, you grandiose secular fascists, yes yes it smells like peasant workload. Secular fascist surly waiter MSNBC world haters. No one truly wants to live in a world run buy a bunch of snotty secular surly waiter world haters.

  3. Two privileged bimbos exploiting a Mexican girl for their own profit. And the New York Times "inadvertently" removing the most important piece of the non-story. Disgusting.

  4. Kavanaugh chose her specifically because he sensed she was the most vulnerable, feeling out of place. Its what predatory pieces of sht do best.

  5. Yes propaganda smooth sailing, alarming, system failing failing, the bilge rats of the big head trip ship MSNBC are restless, they sense these things. The platform of the global initiative, the propaganda projector of the secular fascist moral imperative is flickering, the world stage is wobbling. The actors in this crappy obnoxious dinner theater play pretend not to take slightest notice. The lofty world of the surly waiter world hater is doomed doomed I tell you.

  6. The media is very powerful. So powerful that millions of Americans are being socially engineered to believe any smear campaign on anyone that becomes a political target. Not only are these attacks immoral and unethical,but I dare to say they are satanic. This erosion of fair and honest reporting,allows reporters to look straight face into camera's with no shame and propagate stories that are not verified with facts and evidence.

  7. Liberal liars and losers, ALL OF YOU are low life POS. TRUMP 2020. Thanks for continuing to confirm that with all your FAKE NEWS. This HACK is one of the leaders of the pack.

  8. The NYT, NBC and other media outlets are the communications arm of the Democrat party … There is no more hiding that fact.

  9. The lady who is the focus of this FAKE NEWS REFUSES to comment and doesn’t recall the “story” the NYT is calling fact…FAKE NEWS!!!

  10. As soon as Larry says "new allegation" we know he is really talking about an "old allegation" that lost traction because nobody went to the FBI to report. Going to the FBI is super-easy. Just walk into their office, say you have some information, then they will bring you to a room to talk to an FBI agent. No brainer. But yet, none of the presumptive witnesses did so. Wonder why. Since even though it is illegal to lie to the FBI, the FBI rarely prosecutes

  11. The NYT the paper of “FAKE NEWS”! What an absolute joke! Hey NYT how about an actual story about Eric Schniderman…an actual SEXUAL PREDATOR!

  12. Liberal media not just polishing a turd anymore, eating it, just to show their base how committed they are to making their false narratives real.

    MSNBC: "Why a Turd Still Might Taste Like Chocolate Cake."
    CNN: "Why Trump Is Wrong About What Turds Taste Like."
    Washington Post: "Trump Dog Whistle Racism When He Tells His Base That New York Times Reporters Are Eating Turds."
    Snopes: "False" that turds taste like turds when New York Times reporters eat them
    Media Matters Bots: "Russian Bots must be out today in full force, saying New York Times reporters are eating turds."

  13. consider the peyton manning sexual attack detail of female trainer jamie nalwright. Also swept under the rug and ruined a woman's career.

  14. It is obvious that Kavanaugh had a serious drinking problem and sexual inhibitions that showed their ugly face when he was drunk which again seemed to be often.

  15. Shutting down the FBI's ability to investigate thoroughly, stopping witnesses from testifying, like his best friends, is another corrupt episode on the chump record. Kavannaugh has to go.

  16. the democratic loyalist can act like a echo chamber all they want but it does not change the fact democrats are throwing a way another election and that is what this is.

  17. I don't think it's a good thing to get these women to go though that horrible things one more time…in public..there is a reason to why door in some issues are closed

  18. If a man witnessed it. And is will to go and testify to this with names of who was there. Even if the women is blacked out, unconscious, or even dead. His witnessing it means nothing?

  19. Trump is leading the United States to anarchy as he attempts a coup on behalf of shadowy foreign dictators, certain high level appointees, one or two senators and his own crime family. Each member of the coup has refused to obey a legal order, and by acting as if immune from the law, has set in motion the conditions where citizens in turn will see that US LAW has been made moot and we will begin to experience the anarchy set in motion by Trump. This is of course part of the Trump strategy. Once the Trump regime declares mass disorder, the Posse Comitatus Act of 1874 will be ignored and Trump will use US Army troops against citizens of a nation that will no longer be recognized as the United States of America. Margaret Atwood predicted this. It has taken another thirty-five years for the craven oligarchs, with the assistance of stunningly apathetic voters, to crush democracy.

  20. Kavanaugh is an illegitimate supreme court appointment because Trump is an illegitimate president who was put in office due to cheating by the GOP, Russia and Fox News.

  21. Kick Gorsuch and Kavanaugh off the court, give Merrick Garland confirmation hearings, and hold the other position open until rational individuals can be elected to replace Mitch McConnell and that crew of crooks that he runs in the Senate. Including Joe Manchin, blue-dog Dem who is ripping off the poor of W. VA in service to the fossil fuel industry.

  22. Rob Rosenstein helped to "land the Kegger Kav plane" for the GOP as well as tackling the Mueller investigation before Trump and the GOP could be held accountable.

  23. As a practising lawyer I can say that if I tried to prove an accusation based on double hearsay, from 40 years ago, and with a "victim" who has no memory of it, I would be laughed out of the courtroom by the judge and everybody else. What a joke. Liberals will believe ANYTHING so long as it confirms their pre-existing views.

  24. we can't trust the fbi anymore – they were involved in the Epstein cover up and of course we will never forget they were all involved in the 9 11 coverup.

  25. If being a sexual predator/drunk in High School etc disqualifies a candidate later in life then BK has a problem. His denying is pathetic for a judge in the highest office in the land – a real man would acknowledge his misconduct and act accordingly.
    BK is a coward 🤔

  26. Nothing is going to happen and there will be more scandals coming. The names, faces and accusations will change, but; there won’t be any consequences for any of these guys. I almost feel bad for the fall guys like Cohen and Manafort. Sure, they were guilty as charged, but; they were just running interference for the real crooks they worked for.

  27. I get that the Times has an agenda, but at what point does self-preservation kick in? They can't keep stoking the flames of "fake news" like this. If you keep handing Trump and Fox News tinder, they will burn you down.

  28. Do Demo-Rats have anything better to do than to try assisinating the character of good men and good public servants? The whole party should be exiled to Venezuela.

  29. The Republicans wanted a right leaning judge. That party does not care about anything concerning character. You look at whose in office and it is not surprising

  30. BK should resign if he had any self awareness. Not only Kavanaugh but the person(s) who directed the FBI hold back on the investigation should be outed and then prosecuted.  

    How would a plaintiff feel addressing the highest court in the land where two justices are proven sexual perverts and assaulters? I'm looking at you to Clarence Thomas.

  31. At least Kavanaugh won't mind this. During his confirmation hearing, he stated that his name, reputation and family had been permanently destroyed. So this should be meaningless to him. (My god, I had forgotten how WHINY he was during his confirmation. He apparently thought he was expressing righteous anger. He was wrong.)

  32. It's not hyperbole to call MSM fake news because they literally are fake news, right to the core. So many lies, false reporting, smearing, slandering, conspiracy theories and running with stories without checking their "sources" whatsoever. I hope that they all go out of business one day and stop poisoning weak-minded fools en masse.

  33. HEY FAKE NEWS LARRY O'DONNELL! THE NY TIMES REPORT ON KAVANAGH TURNED OUT TO BE FAKE NEWS! PUT THAT INTO YOUR PIPE AND SMOKE IT! LMFAO! HEARD ANY FAKE NEWS FROM YOUR SOURCES LATELY LARRY? LMFAO! SMH

  34. Love Amy, she won’t get in but is and will be the Next Front Runner! Anybody who has issues with Kavanaugh….just look at his wife’s face throughout his confirmation process. kavanagh is a pig. We all knew a guy like him. Remember the pig that wanted him to Be in the Supreme Court. ………..Trump. WHY IS IT THE Victims are always Vilified?

  35. It is hight time for the senators who s been defending lies of the president, blocking bills meant to protect america
    Start paying some price snd suffer consequence because trumps white house govt is out of control and they defending him, they should held accountable.
    Two things are possible, its either they got paid by trump or they are dumb and dishonest and that is called aiding and
    Abetting.

  36. All Ms. Virgin had to do was leave, after she quit drinking; right after the 2nd shot, or at the first time "they cheated". This whole routine is putting decent women who have accepted responsibility for their own stupid "young adult/college days" .

  37. When the FBI. gets influenced by politics, they convert into Keystone Cops. I have lost all respect for a failing FBI. upper brass. This isn't the fault of the field officers.

  38. This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.
    For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
    Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,
    Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; ~2 Timothy Ch. 3~

  39. I personally don't give a Rat's Butt about Kavanaugh, it's time to remain focused on Trump and the up and coming Presidential Election.

  40. When that Supreme Court seat was hijacked and handed to Kavanaugh on a silver platter that was the death of democracy in America….

  41. America got what America deserve, paedophile trump aka individual one is Gods punishment to America, God gave America President Obama the best President America has ever had, the vile abuse and obstruction for the betterment of America that President Obama received over the 8 years in office so God gave America what America asked for instead, a racist/supremacist/JEWS WILL NOT REPLACE US BRIGADE/LIARS/corrupt/paedophile trump killing disciples/Putin GRU Kremlin bots/troll/sleepers. An imbecilic, inept, lying paedophile trump, dumb as a brick,  a clown show, there's no other news and over  100 books about paedophile trump written in 2 years of paedophile trump being in the oval office and none are positive. MAGA arrest paedophile trump aka individual one and vote out paedophile trump 2020.

  42. Dr. Christine Blasey Ford was born into a Deep State Family.

    She has a 2nd home in Panattastan … the Communist Seaside Villages …
    WWW.News-Expose.org

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