Breaking the language barrier | Tim Doner | TEDxTeen 2014

Translator: Mohand Habchi
Reviewer: Son Huynh So about two years ago, I was featured in
a New York Times article called, “Adventures of a teenage polyglot,” which featured my passion
for learning foreign languages, this peculiar hobby that I had. And at first I thought it was great. I loved the fact that language learning
was getting more attention and that it wouldn’t always seem like an isolating hobby that was suddenly putting me into contact
with people all around the world. And as I spent more time
in the media spotlight, the focus of my story began to shift. So whereas I’ve always been interested
in talking about the why and the how, why I was learning foreign languages,
how I did it, instead, it turned into a bit of a circus, in which media shows wanted
to sensationalize my story. So it would go a little something
like this, “Hello, I’m here today with
17-year-old Timothy Doner who’s fluent in 20 languages. Oh, I’m sorry. He actually can insult you in 25 languages and he’s fluent in another ten. Tim, how about you tell our audience
‘Good morning’ and ‘Thank you for watching’, in Muslim?” (Laughter) “Er… Arabic.” (Arabic) “Great Tim. Now can we get you to introduce yourself and say, ‘I’m fluent in 23 languages’ in German.” “It’s not really true. But…” “No, no, just tell the audience.” (German) “Perfect. Now how about a tongue twister in Chinese? (Laughter) “Well, we could talk about Chinese, you know, a lot more Americans
are learning Chinese these days, and I think there’s
a lot of value in that.” “No, no, no.
Just give us a tongue twister.” (Laughter) (Chinese) “This guy! Tim, how about another tongue twister in Chinese?” “I will prefer not to, but you know we could talk about China. There’s a lot you can gain
by learning a language. “Oh Tim, I’m sorry,
That’s all the time we have.” (Laughter) (Applause) “Now why don’t you to tell our audience ‘Goodbye’ in Turkish and we will be over here?” “You know we haven’t talk
about anything substantive.” “But Turkish please.” (Turkish) “How about that kid, right, wonder if he gets any girls… (Laughter) Now stay with us because up next, a skateboarding bulldog
in a bathing suit.” (Laughter) (Applause) So, as funny as that was, it highlighted two pretty major problems in the way my story was covered. On a personal level, I felt that language learning was now
becoming like a bit of a task, almost. It felt like something that was suddenly
had to be rigidly organized. Something that had to be
compartmentalized, rationalized, expressed in a concrete number. I speak X languages. I know Y languages. As opposed to what I’d always done, which was just learning languages
for the fun of it. Learning to communicate with people, learning about foreign cultures. And on a bigger level, it’s cheapened
what it meant to speak a language, or to know a language. Now if I can impart you
with anything today at TEDxTeen, it’s that knowing a language is a lot more than knowing
a couple of words out of a dictionary. It’s a lot more that being able to ask someone where the bathroom is, or telling them the time of day. But, I’m getting ahead of myself. So for those of you
who aren’t familiar with my story, maybe a lot of you here
don’t know what the word polyglot is, and it’s a pretty weird one. I started here. So this little tot is me, circa 2001, and this is the beginning
of my language learning journey. I actually was a child actor before I’d learned any languages. And I always had a little bit of a gift
for accent. So I’m going to auditions
for radio commercials, or for TV commercials, and I’d do an Austin Powers impression. I’m not going to do one now. (Laughter) Or maybe I would do Apu from the Simpsons. In fact there was actually
one time an audition which I was asked to leave, because they told me to speak
like a little kid with a lisp, and I wanted to do
Darth Vader in a French accent. (Laughter) But, that taught me the basics of of how to breakdown sound. How to pick up a foreign accent, or foreign speech patterns, and really live with it. Now fast forward a little bit, I’m now in about third grade, and I’ve just started French
for the first time. But six months into a year, into even two years later, I can’t converse with anybody. French is just another subject in school, and even though I can tell you words for elbow, knee bone, shoelace. I couldn’t really have
a fluent conversation with anybody. Fast forward a little bit more. In seventh grade, I started Latin. So Latin of course is a dead language, and in learning Latin, you really learn how to breakdown language, to see language as a system with rules, and as a bit of a puzzle. So that was great, but I still didn’t feel
like language was for me. So, forward a little bit more. About 13, and I’ve been interested in learning more about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, I started studying Hebrew. Now, I had no way of doing it. I had no idea
what I was supposed to be doing, so I listen to a lot of Rap music. I memorize lyrics,
I’d spit them back out, and I would just try to chat
with native speakers, once a week, once a month, and I’ve got that incrementally, I started to understand a lot more. Now I didn’t sound like a native speaker, I couldn’t speak very articulately and I certainly didn’t know the grammar. but I had done what I’d never
managed to do in school, which was to pick up
the basics of a language all on my own. Forward a little bit more. I started taking Arabic when I was 14 in a summer program going into 9th grade. This is summer of 2010. After a month I found
that I could read and write without a problem. I’d learned the basics
of the formal language and one of its major dialects. And it turned me onto the fact that I
could really pursue languages as a hobby. So, it finally came to March 24th 2011. So I’ve pretty vicious insomnia, and as I was studying more languages using grammar books or watching TV shows, and let’s say Arabic or Hebrew,
became one way of focusing my time. So on that night, while I was
awake till some ungodly hour, I recorded myself speaking Arabic
into my computer screen, subtitled it, and I uploaded it to YouTube under the title, “Tim speaks Arabic.” (Arabic) Next day I did the same thing, (In Hebrew) Tim speaks Hebrew. And the comments, when I trickled in,
were fantastic. I got things like, “Wow, I’ve never seen
an American speak Arabic before.” (Laughter) You blame them? In addition to that I got things like, “Wow, maybe you should
fix your vowels here.” Or “maybe this word
is pronounced this way.” So suddenly language learning had gone from the solitary pages of a book, or my computer screen, into the wide world. After that I was hooked. I had a community of speakers
to interact with, and essentially had a teacher
or conversation partners for any language that I wanted to do. So I’ll show you a quick montage of that. Video: (Arabic) I started studying
Arabic roughly, 6 months ago. (Indonesian)
This started… one, two, three, four… maybe four days ago. (Hebrew) I actually feel that reading and writing
are easier in Arabic (Ojibwe)
I certainly find Ojibwe difficult! (Swahili) But I came home
the day before yesterday. (Pashto) How is my pronunciation?
Thanks so much! Have a great day. Goodbye! (Applause) Tim Doner: That became my way of reaching out to the world. But as I was learning all these languages, I faced a number of obstacles. So number one,
I had no idea how to teach myself. In fact, I’m sure many of you
if you were told you have to learn Pashto by next month, you wouldn’t know what to do. So I experimented. Here’s one thing. So in my Latin class, I read about
something that Cicero described, called, “Method of Loci.” technically Locurum. But it’s a technique
in which you take mnemonics. So let’s say you want to learn 10 vocabulary words on a list. You take each of those words and instead of memorizing them in blocks. you integrate them
into your spatial memory. So here’s what I mean. This is Union Square. It’s a place I go every day. If I close my eyes I can imagine it very, very vividly So I imagine myself
walking down Union Square, and in each spot in my mind
that has resonance, I associate it with a vocab word. I’ll show you right now. I’m walking down Park Avenue, and in Japanese “to walk” is “iku” I go a little bit further, turn right, sit on the stairs where I can “Suwaru”. Directly north of there
is a statue George Washington which I used to think was a fountain, so that’s “nomu”, “to drink”. Right next,
there’s a tree that you can “Kiru”, “cut”. If you want to go north
for Barnes & Noble, you can “Yomu”, “to read”. Or if I’m hungry and I want to go
to my favorite Falafel place, I can go one block west of there,
so I can “Taberu”, “to eat”. I missed one. Alright. So 8 out of 10!
Not bad! So I found that most of the time by experimenting with methods like these, it made language learning
a much more interactive experience. It made it something
that I can remember much better. and I had a lot of fun with. Maybe that’s not for you. Here’s another one. So a lot of people often ask me, if you’re studying so many languages
at the same time, how do you not confuse them? Or how do you learn
so many vocabulary words? In Spanish I learn a word for table and the word for book
goes out the other ear. What I do is I embrace those. So for example, take these three words in Indonesian. These were actually among
the first 50 words that I learned. “Kepala”, “Kabar”, “Kantor”. Lexically there’re unrelated
to each other. “Kepala” is a head. “Kabar” is news.
“Kantor” is an office. But they all sound similar “K”, “A”.
Right? So what I would do, is I would memorize vocab
in batches of sounds that were similar. So if I hear the word “Kepala”
in Indonesian, I automatically think
the words “Kebar” and “Kentor”. Same in Arabic, “Iktissad”,
“Istiklal”, “Sokot”. These three words are unrelated. One is economy,
one is independence, one is downfall. But if I hear one, it triggers…
(Laughter) (Laughter) it triggers the rest. Same thing in Hebrew. (Hebrew) Even that those are
return, remember and to shine. Or in Farsi in which they are related. So for me if I hear the word “Pedar”, which means father, I automatically think in the words, “Mada”, “Barodar”, “Dokhtar”. Mother, brother, daughter. So again this is one method, and I’m not saying this will
make you fluent in a language, but it has been one of my ways of overcoming those obstacles. So you may be wondering, what’s the point in doing this? Why learn Pashto or Ojibwe when you live in New York? And there’s a point to that. In fact,
I’ve lived in New York my entire life, and I’m always blown away
by the number of languages you can hear on a given day. Walking at a street,
I see billboards in Chinese or in Spanish. I see Russian bookstores,
Indian restaurants, Turkish bath houses. Yet for all that linguistic diversity, mainstream American culture remains decidedly monolingual. And if you don’t think that’s true, look at the reactions
to Coca-Cola Super Bowl video. So as I started to play around more
with language learning, I found that I had my own community of learners here in New York. I’d go to outer boroughs, and for lack of a better word,
embarrass myself. I try to talk to people all day, get their views on things, and use my new found language skills. Video: (Russian) What’s your name?
– Natan. Natan.
– Good day. What’s your name? I’m Tim. Pleased to meet you. Pleased to meet you. Where are you from? (Urdu) This book is written by Qudratullah Shanab himself. What is ‘nawist’? It means the writer has written… Oh okay, Khod-Nawist (self-write). From khod-nevashtan in Persian! TD: So maybe you have to use
a lot of English, maybe you’re not really that particularly interesting
when you talk, but the point is you’re getting out there and you’re getting exposure. So I don’t speak Urdu that well, it was kind of an awkward conversation, but just from that,
I’ve learned a new word: “Khod-Nawist”. I’m not going to forget it now. So moving on, you may wonder again what’s the point in doing this? And I try to explain to people a lot what my various motivations are, but I often feel that this quote
from Nelson Mandela is the best expression of that. “If you talk to a man
in a language he understands, that goes to his head. If you talk to him in his language
that goes to his heart.” So as I began to see, there’s an enormous connection between language and culture, language and thought. And quite honestly
if you want to learn Persian for example, you pick up a dictionary, you say,
“I know how to say ‘thank you’, I know how to say ‘how much is this?’, and I know how to say ‘goodbye’. Oh, I speak Persian.” Probably not, let’s see actually. In fact, if you want to buy something
in a Persian bookstore, you might ask someone ‘how much is this?’. Generally, he will tell you this: “Ghabeli nadaareh.” Which means, ‘it’s worthless’. (Laughter) So in fact this is an ingrained
cultural practice called, “Taaraf”, in which two people having a conversation, both try to behave
more humble than the other. So if I go to buy a book, it’s rude for that person to tell me
‘it’s five bucks’. He has to say “it’s worthless, please. You’re so good-looking,
you’re so talented, (Laughter) Take it for free,
I’m so humble, take it for free.” (Laughter) Or you might find something
like this phrase: if you want to thank somebody, if you want to show your gratitude
towards them, or say ‘nice to meet you’, I could say, “Well,
I know how to say ‘thank you’ in Farsi. I speak Farsi.”
Maybe not though. In fact I’ve often heard this phrase
when I talk with Iranians, “Ghorbanet beram.” Which literally means, “May I sacrifice my life for you.”
(Laughter) So again, it’s poetic, you might call it melodramatic. but this is something you really
have to understand the culture to get. I don’t want to exona-size this, because, think about it,
we have this in English all the time. If you ask somebody ‘how are you?’, what you’re expecting to hear? ‘I’m fine’. If you tell me anything else,
I’m not interested. (Laughter) But we do it anyway. We say ‘bless you’, even though that has no real
religious connotations now, when people sneeze, right? So, it’s interesting we think
about the fact that most linguists believe language doesn’t inherently
affect the way you think. Right. There’s no language
that will make you a math genius. There’s no language that will make logic problems impossible to understand. But there’s a real tie
between language and culture. There’re so much language can tell you about one culture’s mindset. And in fact on planet Earth, every two weeks, another language dies. No more people are speaking it. Because of war, because of famine, oftentimes just because of assimilation. Maybe it easier for me
not to speak my village language but to speak, Arabic let’s say. Or maybe I’m from a tribe in the Amazon, my habitat is cut down and it just makes more sense for me
to learn Portuguese and lose my culture. So think about that. Two months from today is April 1st. For many of you that day maybe stressful because you have a paper due, or the rent is due. But for two groups of people
around the world, for two cultures that means
the death of their language. The death of their mythology,
their history, their folklore. Their understanding of the world. Now again, you,
brushing up on your Spanish, going to Japanese class, is not going to stop language death. But what is does do,
is begin to open up your mind to the idea that language in its sense, in essence, represents a cultural world view. And if I can impart you
with anything today at TEDxTeen, it’s this: you can translate words easily but you can’t quite translate meaning. Thank you. (Cheers)

100 thoughts on “Breaking the language barrier | Tim Doner | TEDxTeen 2014”

  1. Learning a language is great but I don’t think Duolingo is a really good choice
    Duo: What did you say?
    Me: Nothing Duo actually…… You are the best
    Duo: Stop elevating me and finish your Hebrew lesson


  2. Yes that's true if you convince your brain by putting b yourself in that situation it will adapt. The subconscious needs to know that your serious

  3. I liked your way of talking and explaining . I mean you've done great in this video as a presentation . you're so funny body 😘😃.

    Bou I have a quick question for you as Languages Master 😉↓ ..

    → [ If someone who has a very weak memory is learning a new language besides his own . Would that be possible to empower his memory and make him stronger at keeping and remembering ??

  4. Can you blame them?

    Caught that. Change of pitch right after. I'm sure it's humor. Don't judge him quickly.

  5. This guy is Intelligent AF.
    Can make you laugh, can inspire you and CAN INSULT YOU IN 15+ Languages.
    Edit: check the caption options of this video it will make you even happier!

  6. OK I'm not German but that German accent was so convincing, I travel to Germany alot and I hear their accents that's why I think your accent is so smooth

  7. I speak Arabic frensch germany englisch I want to learn a lot of languages ​​but I find it difficult

  8. Me encanto su charla y me motivo a seguir aprendiendo más idiomas y conociendo más culturas. Gracias 🙏🏿😊

  9. In my language the literal translation for a greeting is “how are you healing” 😂😂😂

  10. Untill this video.i Have always felt so proud that I learnt English by myself but now im embraced that I only know English

  11. "I wonder if that guy gets any girls". Honesltly, I'm 17 on 2019 and really sad to find out that this video, when he was my age, was from 5 years ago…

  12. Jeez, i feel so uneasy when i read comments from lingvists who know more than 5 languages(At this moment i know russian,english and now learning japanese)

    I wanna be stronger and i will.

  13. He is such an inspiration! My obsession for languages as grown ever since I saw him. My mother tongue is French. I am fluent in English and I am learning Spanish and German. I personally think the best ways to learn a language is to watch tv shows, read books and speak with natives. It is so nice when you are aware of your evolution and can have a little conversation with someone.

  14. One of the best TED Talks ever, especially for people (like me) who are passionate in learning foreign languages!

  15. The speaker may have a working competence in those languages, perhaps only in specific areas. Most likely not in colloquial environments, which require more competence of idiomatic vocabulary. For example, Afrikaans has a very simple grammar, but acquiring colloquial fluency requires you to live among the Booer descendants in South Africa for a long time.

  16. Congrats on the video!
    Learning English?
    Irregular Verbs. The Ultimate Guide/ Amazon.
    A book simple in form but rich in content!

  17. I’m doing an informative/proposal essay for my college English class and it revolves around the idea that more people need to develop a sort of “world view” mindset, and language was the first thing that came to mind for the supporting ideas. I’m so glad I found this guy!
    If anyone reads this, tell me: What do you think the benefits of having a more open mind are, and what can get us as a society(ies) closer to that goal?

  18. Thanks Tim, you give motivation to me. Now I can speak 3 languages (including my native language): vietnamese, english and japanese.

  19. Why people try to speak Japanese, German, etc, instead of Spanish?

    I mean is the 2nd most speaking language in the world

  20. Почему то я очень рад, что услышал пару слов на русском в этом видео)))

  21. Try Filipino. It's a combination of Chinese, Malay, Polynesian, Arabic, Indonesian, Sanskrit, Latin and Spanish.

  22. very inspirational video, he understands much more than just 20 languages. He managed to gather loads of inspiration and knowledge by sharing this 16 minute video. Best TED talk ever.

  23. I could speak just 3 languages. But yeah when I even said “beautiful” in English I feel a little bit different from the “beautiful” mean of other language what I could speak.

    Language is just a tool. however all of languages are different tools.

  24. Başta pek bir şey anlamasam da video bittiğinde ne demek istediğini anladım. Dil kültürdür.

  25. I speak Icelandic, English, Norwegian and Danish and am learning Hebrew and Portugese at the same time. It's not too hard to do.

  26. I speak 5, punjabi, hindi, urdu, english and italian. Moved to Italy when I was 8, then moved to chicago when I was 16. now am 19 with average english 😀

  27. From my experiences, raw meaning can be transferred through one language.
    It expresses emotions and transfers them straight to the heart, bypassing any barriers.
    It’s also one of the most difficult languages to speak, but more eloquent than any other.

  28. Language is not just mean of communication as some people put it, Behind language there is culture, history, emotions, values and probably more.

  29. His Turkish sounds a bit like Arabic (because he also speaks Arabic I think?) but I love it, sounds different and unique.

  30. Wondering if he knows something about the Ancient-Chinese which can be put into everyday talks by educated Chinese


  31. меня всегда интересовал вопрос: откуда у них столько времени?! тут 1 английский изучаешь годами, а люди вон уже больше 5 языков знают к 20 годам.

  32. Lolololol
    Being an Iranian those last few minutes made me laugh so hard thanks about that….
    And I owe you for teaching me how to learn a new language again
    I learned english on my own but I couldn't remember how I did it! Thanks for reminding me

  33. it's really inspired me,and have anyone wanna learning chinese,i can be you partner,i just need a English partner,My English is sucks,i need a partner!!help!

  34. I was born in Poland and living in Germany since about 18years and always when someone is trying to make me speak german, I insult them xDDDDD because it's annoying ffs.

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