Benefits of Education in your Mother tongue – with Ranjith Vadiyala

hello and welcome to Pecos channel on your host three ayah which is the best language for a child to study subjects and is it the child's mother town or should it be another town that would be the best one for the child to study in this is the topic that we are going to examine and to talk about this we are joined by ranjith wadi ala Ranjith has done extensive amount of research on this and i'm sure you're going to find his conclusions very very interesting thank you welcome to pee gurus channel the mustard Zee thank you very much for giving me the opportunity to present my research and yet the vigorous Channel and they'll be doing prestigious work you know bringing in a lot of experts and various fields which we don't get to see and the noisy so-called primetime news media thank you for that and to begin with you know this is the researcher have started actually for Rajiv Malhotra see so at one point of time you know he actually asked me to work choose a couple of topics and work on them and have chosen medium of instruction and you know he said okay go ahead then after that you know because of his busy schedule and changing priorities maybe you know somehow this never could get materialized but some anyways you know it was very helpful for me I have been researching on this so you know let me first give you the conclusion you know the conclusion is mother tongue is best there is no contrary evidence every is the the whatever maybe you look at it mother tongue is the best you know I have actually you know seen it in not different wastes what are you saying something yes so I just wanted to tell our viewers viewers please don't forget to click on the subscribe button because it helps you get notified of our beauty videos as and when they come and this is something that I should start instead in the beginning but I apologize I did and so on you studied various findings from various nations bodies right so perhaps you can present your information now in a way that you know substantiates your conclusion yes sir so before going into you know the complex things of you know the scientific research and all those things said you know first let us let us see a common sensical view of the the question sir which is better whether mother tongue are the English or French or is some some other foreign language the depart the primary purpose of Education or a scholastic education is to make the pupil understand what the teacher is trying to teach them that is the primary purpose and that is best done in a language that is understood by both the teacher and the student and that obviously will be mother tongue what is so you know what what is so you know tough about understanding this small T well you know one one of the things that we have to keep in mind is if the school is heterogeneous meaning like he has many children speaking different tongues at home then how does one across this issue that's one of the challenges this may work if the school is a homogenous school you see what I'm saying yes sir so concern IP 90% of the schools are homogenous if you observe okay so maybe didn't a lady there is an acne Robi you know any system that we you know prescribed there will be a few problems you know it is nothing like you know yeah with the exceptions yes yeah there will be exceptions that we have to work out something for those exceptions but you know your exceptions cannot be norm and you know we cannot test you know employ the policies that are to be employed for the exceptional cases of course you know continue your hypothesis okay so so the first thing is you know as I said you know comments and says that used mother tongue because that's the best way to make these student understand what you're being teaching the second thing is attitude even if you go by the research and this you know there is you know a lot of research have gone into this subject set and I know I'm only picking up two things sir one is a study by UNICEF and the other one is by UNICEF the first one body UNICEF is the impact of language policy and practice on children's learning evidence from Eastern and South Africa so I think I think yes southern Africa sir but they have picked up some 20 21 countries in India Eastern and Southern Africa and they have done research on this earth but second one is mother tug based bilingual or multilingual education in the early years this is a paper commissioned by UNESCO so third one is something called as Matthew effect is a part of a you know British consul books and it was released by British Council so if you go through these study sir you know I'm not going to go very deep into all the research material available because that will take a lot of time but if you see the crux of what these research papers are saying they're unanimous in saying that whatever way you look at it mother tongue is best for education that is the crux of defined itself both these researches the first one is as I said sir you know it's a it's a research done by UNICEF themselves and 21 or 22 countries in Africa and the second one is a collation of different studies done by different people at various points of time so that's a paper commissioned by UNESCO so I just simply read out a few lines that are there in this study sir please go ahead okay sir so if you go to the UNICEF researcher what they're saying is global evidence has been in support of mother tongue based education as a critical part of high quality education and the report adds to this body of knowledge second research also shows that using mother tongue as medium of instruction enhances child's cognitive learning process and that learner centered learning has to be carried out in a language the child speaks in order to be effective a member of qualitative and quantitative studies and language of instruction practices in the region indicate that using the languages spoken by the children significantly enhances learning outcomes compared to using a language of instruction that child does not speak we can go on and on and answer you know we you know every every every you know your research is showing the same thing sir use mother tongue you know go to the illustrating such children's l1 l1 here is a mother tongue sir is important for their overall language and cognitive development and their academic achievement individuals develop literary skills most easily in a familiar language mother tongue based education specially built its disadvantaged groups including children from rural communities and those I absolutely agree with this finding because I can tell you when I was studying engineering fully half of this class was studied there a primary school education in in Telugu and and they were extremely smart but they wouldn't open their mouths because they couldn't express themselves in English up until it took some time it could draw them out and and teachers wear themselves almost always this is engineering the whole language of a structure was English and and they would always speak in English so most of the time what used to happen was they would come and seek out some of us who could explain to them in in Telugu what exactly was the thing I mean they would write down the exact thing you know what is this mean what is this mean and so on and so forth but the most important thing that I wanted shared with our viewers is when I was doing my intermediate that is eleventh and twelfth standard you know in this what is called as intermediate in those days I don't know how the instruction now is 10000 now same right okay well the the best books for mathematics was in Telugu and it used to be about it was bigger than the resting and holiday which is used for physics in bachelors level it used to be really big and it has all the best problems especially for calculus and integral integral and differential calculus and trigonometry and so on and so forth so there what used to happen was those who did not have Telugu as their mother tongue they would actually ask those who knew how to read they'll go to translate the questions the problems to them in English and then they will solve it and then they would go back and check if the answers were right or not I mean that book was like two three steps ahead of the English a colon and it was just amazing what I'm trying to say is this this is a challenge especially in professional disciplines because suddenly they have to learn everything in a language that they are not used to but there is that step also so whatever that you know we say yes English is I mean mother tongue is a good way to learn this thing but there has to be some sort of a bridge that needs to come where you start getting taken along on that bridge so you don't get this big ladder to climb should you end up in you know a professional program where English is the only language that they use in fact you if I remember correctly almost all undergraduate courses in here are all only taught in English right I slightly disagree with you here higher G so yeah as I said you know no under graduation and graduation courses are still being taught in the mother tongue at least I think maybe I'll make it languages you have textbooks I think till graduation I'm not sure about personal edition of course but I don't know how many people are actually studying but till graduation we have textbooks we have faculty everything is available till graduation and secondly thing sir we don't even have to think about bridging a gap between the mother tongue are they local languages to English I mean when China can survive when Japan can survive and South Korea can survive infantile and can survive when France can survive when Germany can survive in their own mother tongues when Iran can survive small small countries like you know Iran Thailand know what I call Taiwan South Korea when all these countries are surviving without English how basically we can also enough of course it is little tough for us because we have multilingual houses a multilingual society we have to find out some solution but it is not that you know it is mandatory a transition into English is not mandatory if as as long as we think about you know this problem in that way we are going to lose the local languages for sure and and you know we'll do it at a later point our friends at this question will answer that a later point of mine I can I can share from my personal experiences of having toured China South Korea Japan at least these three countries and and even France that I have toured where the speakers don't know English and usually what happens then is if there is a meeting of 10-15 people the meetings tend to go really really slowly there will be one speaker who knows English and then there is things that get lost between loss in translation so there is some hiccups there I mean I I agree with you but there are some challenges with this also definitely said definitely there are there will be some challenges but what I need to space the problems associated with not knowing English are very very limited when compared to the benefits that we are going to get if we are being you know if you are at being educated in your mother tongue the advantage took far far better my my outlook on this and I'll share my viewpoint on this the critical subjects such as cognitive sciences social studies science math this you know you can learn it in your native mother tongue now one of the things that the children also need to learn from a fairly early age is to be able to pick up one language outside of their you know area I mean three language formula is is probably a very good idea and and it's important to start not all sort of fairly young age because remember that the human brain has an enormous amount of capacity today you and I we are probably only using one sixth of our brain capacity in other words by sixth is actually going waste we're eating for that blood is flowing through that but is just those gray cells are not just getting engaged so the there is there is a lot of scope tutor to to to learn and and learn more languages that's not so there is a I don't know how this can be put in from you know like primary school but I do think with you know online education becoming more and more prevalent the children can be encouraged to take one or two online courses for language and then get that course certificate be included because that's how it happens in the u.s. any child can learn anything even in their high school it doesn't matter as long as you qualified to be able to learn that you can learn that thing and you will get a grade from an online Institute and that that thing will be send to your school records and it just like you got a spool great from us teacher that you will go and attend in the classroom this game gets added to your grade point average so these kinds of things should happen now because once you put that into play right you will be able to learn from the best your teacher may not be the best authority on the subject for whatever reason sometimes I have seen brilliant individuals struggling takes themselves in English I know that person knows his subject very well because when you go after the class and ask him questions where he is not under compulsion to speak in English he will lapse into Telugu I would love to do Telugu and then in the thing becomes much clearer you see so this is a budding thing the pursuit of much would be important yes sir that that we have self licked self it's a self imposition on ourselves sir and it is crippling our hands and crippling our people a lot sir and people will get into this I know the moment you a Telugu medium add a thermal medium stood and gets into English medium class by default he will have that inferior to compromise yeah Society have imposed I have imposed self imposed on ourselves we have equated somehow that speaking in English itself is he is equivalent to knowledge which is not you know if you go to some African countries where their mother friends are English even a beggar will speak in English speaking in English that doesn't itself equal to knowledge you know knowledge is different and each is different if the both on different skills are not saying we don't be English so you might need to get will come to that point at a later point of time but the primary object to is to attain the knowledge once you attain the knowledge you can you know say for example if you know let's let's for the argument set per note take that and assume that if you know English is manded say for example he/she is mandated so that's for example for now take it as that case even if it is the case you have to learn English but for that you don't have to you know learn your history in chemistry Nia she is foolish no that is true I I have completely agree with you that's why I professed my observation saying that the cognitive sciences can be learnt in your mother tongue because yes pursuit of knowledge and the fastest way to pursue that is more important than learning it in a particular language that doesn't really help you however having said that then there is some there is a crossover point that happens and whether see I come from Hispania where they taught medicine and engineering and although in fact many many of my professors could teach in both although in English and because they could they're proficient and all do and they could read Arabic they used to be Muslim and they would go and teach in Iraq for two three years on you know very high salaries and then they would come back so then there are opportunities since the language is something that enables you to do many things now let's get back to the mother tongue as a form of instruction is there anything else you would like to add on top of the unit unicef Angeles yes yes sir there is one more actually interesting researcher people might not even know this the instruction in English when it comes to the case of India will actually put the economically backward classes at a disadvantage it is currently Matthew FXR in it and and who is saying this sir it is say it is being said by the British Council which who whose primary stated objective is to spread English across the world are saying that I don't remember the name of the book I think some day I forget the name of the book so for example sir I'll explain it a example with an example the help of an example sir say for example there is a race in which there are two people one is healthy strong and he's good the other one is ankle is twisted of that the first person who is normal you know will leave at least two three seconds ahead of the second handicap he's getting a handicap okay a second guys you know you can state handicaps at an anklet a temporary problem yeah so that's that's the kind of rates what happens in that kind of race is obviously in the first person the normal person will be the race not only that the gap between these two keeps on increasing with T you know with time so say for example a big gap is ten meters at the beginning by the by the end of first minute the graph will be like you know thirty forty meters so the gap keeps increasing that is what happens when you when the children are being taught you know in in a medium of instruction that the parents and house environment doesn't support at all most of the poor kid they'll not have any exposure to other any other land with other than their mother tongue but whereas upper middle-class and rich rich kids they'll have exposure finish so this will put them at an advantageous position when compared to the poor poor kids and that gap will keep decreasing and this is called Matthew epic so this is called Matthew effect and this is a very serious problem when it comes to thee it OPP the lower-income group it's now that's that's probably true and I think you're right I did this this this gap keeps increasing and and there is so much that that has to be bridged and and that's something that probably we can discuss in a in a next episode we can discuss how to bridge this gap perhaps know the bridging this gap is you know there are several reasons that I'm not saying that if you fix the medium of instruction problem everything in educational to fix this is not the case there are hundreds of other things and we should not you know add to the already existing problem say for example the recent state governments most of them what they're you know somehow is you meaning is a medium of instruction being English itself will solve all the problems in the education of these people and get the ideas here that's not the panacea you P government is did the same thing Andhra Pradesh government also is doing the same thing again even Jagga and recently has announced that you know he's also going to continue the same and you know is going to convert all the Telugu medium government schools in English people I'm not sure if this such a big decision I'm not sure what is the resets that has gone you know before taking such a big decision I don't really think that they have done any research you know it's an automatic assumption that you know just studying negation just knowing ish itself amounts to a better education you know it's it level I know I don't really understand how to be sleepless for example what about the teachers how good are they enhancing themselves in English so that is that is a big big challenge and going to be subjected to different language no sir actually that's a blessing in this case F that's a blessing in disguise the reason why it is blessing in disguise is if the teacher doesn't know English he'll teach in Telugu that's true that's true that's true that's actually a good thing you know that's the only reason why we are able to sustain sir if all the English Britons could actually start teaching have been absolute English and our standards would have been much worse I tell you a small right that's a very very good observation please continue okay so let's so you know this this is the rhesus that is you know outside which I said and I have done some research on my board where have collected some empirical data a lot of empirical data sir I tell you you know something from my personal experience you know as part of my job responsibilities I Planetree a lot of people for the past 15 years I have been you know I would have actually included some five six hundred people at least no offer I'd have been doing it little more this standard you know most of the people who might get are engineering graduates you hear from and Rhino not split up engineering colleges how much from so many know there are so many engineering colleges yeah so so lot of people will be from engineering and the fast and typical question that I ask them is well did you finish your exams most of them would have finished their exam some three months that six months back one year back the next question that I would ask them is what are the subjects in which you have written your recent exams and 90% of these students won't be able to tell you even the names of the papers and nails of the subjects in which they have written examples I see I see they don't even know the names of the subjects hmm and can you even expect them to know any subjects now how is that I mean why is it that shallow I mean there are several other reasons sir and one of them is medium of instruction what made him of instruction you know what it is doing is it is ensuring that you don't know your mother tongue hmm it ensures that you don't know your mother tongue but if we learn to teach you either English or whatever the other language that means the talking so you know that know your mother tongue nor your English so you're fit for nothing you cannot read a Telugu newspaper you cannot read a till you newspaper nd if someone reads out a newspaper you cannot understand it so you don't know yeah you don't my a language and without language how can knowledge get transmitted how can you acquire knowledge without language that is true right you cannot understand so how are you going to acquire knowledge essentially if you are yeah yeah many people yes sir so it is the last point said you know as Raja mother press sir says you know the coal of countries somehow be you know dignified because more and iced me to put it in his in his words we are being asked more and is then this modernization process language the medium of instruction is playing a very very key roles that's true and we will have parts two and three in the days to come thank you Ranjit and there is a lot more information that we have to discuss including empirical findings and also what are the side effects of this so thank you for watching and do subscribe to our channel thanks Roger thank you sir thank you for giving the opportunity

13 thoughts on “Benefits of Education in your Mother tongue – with Ranjith Vadiyala”

  1. All European cultures are resource(mother earth) profiligate. Most asian cultures are sanathana. Our professional edu-cation is European in origin… Thence the eschewed values we are infected with & the eschewed dharma we are fettered with.

  2. I can relate to what Ranjit has mentioned. Mostly parents from lower/middle income group put their children in English medium where Hindi and Tamil/ Malayalam taught as second & third language, thinking children will have better prospect in job markets. I can assure you after my graduation I found myself not proficient in any of these languages. There is no easy way out for this problem. Thank to both of you. Really enjoyed the discussion.

  3. Sree please interview sankrant sanu…he has done a lot of research on this and has evolved the model we should adopt

  4. I was humiliated by my own teacher in class 1 for not being able to speak correct English. At home my family hardly spoke English. How did that teacher assume that a class 1 student is going to be fluent in a foreign language. I was feeling as if something is grossly wrong in not being able to speak in English. It shook my self confidence. As a young child solving maths problems in English, it first took me time to understand the language and then I could solve the question. I don't know how the other children who did well coped. Well over a period of time, my English became much better that Hindi took a backseat. I could not say counting in Hindi only knew English numbers, spoke with my friends in English, thought in English. It became very natural. Now reading and writing English comes much more easy to me than Hindi. How shameful. And the whole education system is to be blamed.

  5. 100% AGREE(recently I have started doing some research on metals and I fell language is a big problem for me I don't know Hindi and Sanskrit.)


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